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Caspian wrote:Page three and no one has addressed the sewage system on those ugly shipping containers. You gonna build yourself a small out house like back in the old days and trek out there in the dark if you have to shit late at night/early am?

Caspian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:53 am

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:38 am Utility trailer camper idea...

Legitimate way to disappear and go off the grid for cheap.

I used to do the toy hauler thing for a few seasons at the dunes, 8-10 times each season. Burned a lot of fuel during those times, it was a fun lifestyle but my carbon footprint was larger than a sasquatchs'. Of course one could live modestly in a camper without the ATV's or dirt bikes, or other fuel powered toys, but with a camper you still need a water and sewage system, and to dump & clean tanks on a regular basis.

Going off grid is something that has appealed to me for a few years now specifically using solar and wind, and possibly water power as well. I would like to find a community of farmers, kind of a private community that all chip in and farm food and live sustainable. I look at all these people today in the car world and motorcycle world, power boats, airplanes, motorsports, etc, and I think, how stupid are these people, they are all seeing who can use up the planets resources the fastest. I love cars and bikes, boats, etc but to me they are now an obsolete "technology" that is being heavily controlled and forced upon mankind for the profit of the corporate industries.

SixSpeeder wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:39 pm

Caspian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:53 am

I used to do the toy hauler thing for a few seasons at the dunes, 8-10 times each season. Burned a lot of fuel during those times, it was a fun lifestyle but my carbon footprint was larger than a sasquatchs'. Of course one could live modestly in a camper without the ATV's or dirt bikes, or other fuel powered toys, but with a camper you still need a water and sewage system, and to dump & clean tanks on a regular basis.

Going off grid is something that has appealed to me for a few years now specifically using solar and wind, and possibly water power as well. I would like to find a community of farmers, kind of a private community that all chip in and farm food and live sustainable. I look at all these people today in the car world and motorcycle world, power boats, airplanes, motorsports, etc, and I think, how stupid are these people, they are all seeing who can use up the planets resources the fastest. I love cars and bikes, boats, etc but to me they are now an obsolete "technology" that is being heavily controlled and forced upon mankind for the profit of the corporate industries.

BS, those weekend warriors and enthusiasts are an inconsequential drop in the bucket compared to all the trucks, trains, planes, and boats that are constantly bringing me my Amazon boxes on a daily basis.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:38 pm

Caspian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:33 pm Page three and no one has addressed the sewage system on those ugly shipping containers. You gonna build yourself a small out house like back in the old days and trek out there in the dark if you have to shit late at night/early am?

Ever heard of a cat hole?

Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:35 am

Caspian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:53 am

I used to do the toy hauler thing for a few seasons at the dunes, 8-10 times each season. Burned a lot of fuel during those times, it was a fun lifestyle but my carbon footprint was larger than a sasquatchs'. Of course one could live modestly in a camper without the ATV's or dirt bikes, or other fuel powered toys, but with a camper you still need a water and sewage system, and to dump & clean tanks on a regular basis.

Going off grid is something that has appealed to me for a few years now specifically using solar and wind, and possibly water power as well. I would like to find a community of farmers, kind of a private community that all chip in and farm food and live sustainable. I look at all these people today in the car world and motorcycle world, power boats, airplanes, motorsports, etc, and I think, how stupid are these people, they are all seeing who can use up the planets resources the fastest. I love cars and bikes, boats, etc but to me they are now an obsolete "technology" that is being heavily controlled and forced upon mankind for the profit of the corporate industries.

razr390 wrote:

Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:35 am

He's not lying

We all about bubbles and how the car industry is one that is primed to burst, and then is all when he looks at the beans, and everyone else makes fun of TRUK, etc. etc.

Tarspin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:08 pm

razr390 wrote:
He's not lying

We all about bubbles and how the car industry is one that is primed to burst, and then is all when he looks at the beans, and everyone else makes fun of TRUK, etc. etc.

is an all right guy. At first I was a little but he is just trying to share his many nights of research.

razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:12 pm

Tarspin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:08 pm is an all right guy. At first I was a little but he is just trying to share his many nights of research.

I agree there is some sort of mutual respect regardless of agreement or else he would've either from here himself or been by

Caspian wrote:Conspiracy theories

I think all structures should have solar panel roofs.

Tarspin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:08 pm

razr390 wrote:
He's not lying

We all about bubbles and how the car industry is one that is primed to burst, and then is all when he looks at the beans, and everyone else makes fun of TRUK, etc. etc.

is an all right guy. At first I was a little but he is just trying to share his many nights of research.

wap wrote:

Tarspin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:08 pm is an all right guy. At first I was a little but he is just trying to share his many nights of research.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:52 am

Caspian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:12 pm Conspiracy theories

I think all structures should have solar panel roofs.

It seems wasteful that this isn't so.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:52 am

Caspian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:12 pm Conspiracy theories

I think all structures should have solar panel roofs.

It seems wasteful that this isn't so.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:18 am

Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:23 am

Do you have nay idea how much energy it takes to make a solar panel?

I don't. Enlighten me.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:47 am

Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:37 am

A SHIT LOAD.

Tech has gotten alot better, but the payoff to where the module "repays" the energy used to mine, make, and install it is anywhere from one to 4 years. In a lifetime they can make anywhere between 15 and 60 times the energy they used to make em.

I'm not sure if these calculations account for losses for conversion to AC though the inverter. They almost certainly do not account for the energy used for making that component.

Solar works, but its still a niche thing.

I just think it's easier to track the amount of waste in the solar energy industry than any other industry simply because there's less moving parts and less room for fudgery (gov't grants notwithstanding). You have the solar panel production, and the solar panel installation. Instant delivery of energy to the consumer, and excess gets delivered back into the grid.

Because there are less stakeholders (and thus less profit), it's easier for the and of the world to go

Meanwhile, for the other energy industries: You have the people finding said energy source, machines and people mining or harvesting said energy source, machines and people building the facility to process the raw material, the machines and people needed to transport said energy source, and finally the machines and people building the facility to expend said energy source, all before it finally gets transmitted to the consumer. Lots of room for padding the profits.

Tarspin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:19 pm

wap wrote:

, his version of making people aware of controlling politicians and making the world a more fair place?

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:52 am

Caspian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:12 pm Conspiracy theories

I think all structures should have solar panel roofs.

It seems wasteful that this isn't so.

Tarspin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:19 pm

wap wrote:

, his version of making people aware of controlling politicians and making the world a more fair place?

wap wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:51 am

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:52 am

It seems wasteful that this isn't so.

It should be mandated for every warehouse, factory, office building, storage facility, big-box store, government building, etc. There must be hundreds if not thousands of square miles of flat roof surface in this country that should have panels on them.

SixSpeeder wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:40 pm

wap wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:51 am


It should be mandated for every warehouse, factory, office building, storage facility, big-box store, government building, etc. There must be hundreds if not thousands of square miles of flat roof surface in this country that should have panels on them.

And they should be manufactured in coal powered facilities in China, keep the pollution over there while we get nice and green.

Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:47 pm http://newatlas.com/winnebago-revel-4x4 ... 5/#gallery

I'd live in this van, even if it's parked down by a river.

Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:47 pm http://newatlas.com/winnebago-revel-4x4 ... 5/#gallery

I'd live in this van, even if it's parked down by a river.