Not bad points. Buty car is being totaled and I do need a car, so...max225 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:51 pmI would likely recommend a 1/2 year old used GTI or a new one if epic money is on the hood. Once again the key here would be waiting... which I am you're willing to do. We will start to see epic 's in 2 weeks or so, and in 1 month I would expect most of the country to be open for rape/businesss.... so it will be an amazing time to shop if you can hold out that long.wap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:06 pm What I want:
Small – 179” max length
Car height, no CUV
Utility, specifically, 4 doors and a hatch.
<<$30k.
Much prefer new, but would MAYBE consider a 2018.
Able to burn 87 would be nice
Needs to be kinda fun to drive, so decent performance. It needs to be quick enough to get out of it’s own way, merge on short on ramps, etc, and some handling chops is a must.
A real color would be nice this time.
What I don’t want:
CUV/SUV/ /
Toyota anything – sorry Fled, et al, it’s just nahgonnahappen
Some 4+ year old luxury thing that was $50k+ new but only $25k now. Not interested in the maintenance and upkeep those will require.
An ugly-ass Civic
Current contenders:
GTI
What can I say? Still the overall Best Car to Rule Them All, the Swiss Army Knife of cars.
Plus’s: Value, quality, comfort, performance, superiorinterior, it’s got all that.
It’s quick enough, handles well enough, hauls shit when necessary, great road trip car.
They seem to have the EA888 down in it’s 3rd generation with fewer carbon issues. Correct me if I’m here.
There’s a reason why so many of us here bought one.
Can be found for mid-$20’s
Minus’s: I’ve already had 2, though the Mk4 2.slo is a completely different animal than a 6 or 7.5 so can’t really include.
Smaller fuel tank than a Mk6.
Not available in many colors. The blue looks a lot like my CSG and I don’t care for red. Honestly, it looks best in white, IN MY OPINION. I could live with a white GTI.
All-Track
Plus’s: Scratches that wagon itch I’ve had for a while.
Bigger cargo capacity. Duh.
It has the 1.8 engine. The only reason I’m not including a GSW here is because of the 1.4.
Available in real a couple of real colors.
Minus’s: Not as fast or as nimble-handling as a GTI.
about AWD, though the owners here don’t seem to mind it.
No cloth/plaid seats. Big bummer for me.
Much farther down the desirability list are
Those are the main ones. Told you this would be a boring thread.
Elantra GT or N
Plus’s: Not a VW
Epic warranty
Epic feature content
‘s to be had. True for all choice, tbh.
Minus’s: Not a VW
Not as good looking as a GTI
Not many color choices
No cloth option
Mazda3
Not that many plus’s, honestly. Kinda meh about this, really. Supposedly quite nice but even less sporty than the previous gen.
No real minus’s really. Don’t like the C pillar.
No Mazdaspeed version.
That’s all I got for now.
know that if you're shopping now you're only there out to NECESSITY.
:wtf: WAP made a car thread? AKA the most boring car thread ever
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No hatch no care.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:53 pm Are there major MPG/maintenance considerations ? If so a 340i will present an excellent value for not much extra.
Amazing examples can be had for 25k or so. IMO there is no better value on the used market than that... but it comes at a price of premium 23mpg and BMW rape fees for repairs.
Plus a big on the bolded.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:01 pmRead the thread Max.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:53 pm Are there major MPG/maintenance considerations ? If so a 340i will present an excellent value for not much extra.
Amazing examples can be had for 25k or so. IMO there is no better value on the used market than that... but it comes at a price of premium 23mpg and BMW rape fees for repairs.
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noted.wap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:16 pmNo hatch no care.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:53 pm Are there major MPG/maintenance considerations ? If so a 340i will present an excellent value for not much extra.
Amazing examples can be had for 25k or so. IMO there is no better value on the used market than that... but it comes at a price of premium 23mpg and BMW rape fees for repairs.
Plus a big on the bolded.
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Honestly given the tight criteria, in particular the Hatch piece... The literal only sensible option is a GTI/Golf of sorts.
There is no other "fun to drive" New/Ish hatchback.
A civic Sport comes to mind... but it is far slower than a GTI.... Also CVT...
There is no other "fun to drive" New/Ish hatchback.
A civic Sport comes to mind... but it is far slower than a GTI.... Also CVT...
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Yeah. Weird. Would VW really go back in the last model year and change the fuel tank? It's gotta be a typo.wap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:13 pmDid you check my link?Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:29 pm
about that one. R has the 14 gallon tank. What do the other car comparo sites say?
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Here's a rabbit edition in cornhole blue from Carvana. Only issue with them is poverty radio, otherwise they're a perfect spec.
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rip. good car did its job and kept you safe.
buy a good used mk6 cash
live a little and get used 7.5R
or just get new/used 7 GTI for epic
buy a good used mk6 cash
live a little and get used 7.5R
or just get new/used 7 GTI for epic
brain go brrrrrr
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Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:37 pmYeah. Weird. Would VW really go back in the last model year and change the fuel tank? It's gotta be a typo.
Here's a rabbit edition in cornhole blue from Carvana. Only issue with them is poverty radio, otherwise they're a perfect spec.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing
Do I care about the radio ?
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First line. Truth.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:51 pm rip. good car did its job and kept you safe.
buy a good used mk6 cash
live a little and get used 7.5R
or just get new/used 7 GTI for epic
Nope to second and third lines.
Forth line is probable.
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Screw the Pontiac Alltrack, get the GSW S 4mo if you want AWD.
I don't have the headlight boner of most here, but even my halogens were pretty damn good, way better than BMW halogens.wap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:45 pmDon't disagree. Thing is, I think the S level of GTI, while the lowest, is the best because it's the only version with cloth plaid seats, which IDesertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:41 pm
Well at least get a well optioned GTI or an R. There's nothing excessive about that. You should buy new or barely used because
Halogen headlights doe, which blows.
Given your use case, GTI makes the most sense probably.
IMO Civic Si is a better driving/handling car, but only.
Veloster N is neat and DCT is coming... would you be down with the styling? Seems like you prefer more conservative.
WRX is but a no-go with the automatic.
I know you said no used luxo but a Beemah like mine is like $20K in brand new condish and is kind of just a RWD GTI that looks better and has a better blue color.
Acura ILX might be worth a look, I think they have a DCT and the dynamics of a Civic Si.
does it need to be four door with no kids/no ?
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Why no pano roof?[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:58 pm
Just don’t get one with a pano roof.
Sadly that leaves you only with the S, which while well equipped, gives you no good headlights or sport seats.
I still want an Alltrack tho.