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Rated for towing in murica? My original plan was a TDI DSG JSW... :thanksobama:
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They’ll tow small loads like you are looking at rather well.

I don’t recall if it has official US tow ratings, quick google search pulls up ratings in kilos.



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troyguitar wrote:Rated for towing in murica? My original plan was a TDI DSG JSW... :thanksobama:
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They’ll tow small loads like you are looking at rather well.

I don’t recall if it has official US tow ratings, quick google search pulls up ratings in kilos.



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Still :waxer: and questionable on the reliability front. Maybe a :povertytruck: with a camper bed is the way to go? Could even keep it "Mazda" with a B-series. IIRC the regular cabs are around 188x70" footprint with a 6 ft bed. Annoyingly it seems like the new rangers will be a lot bigger and not come in regular cab versions, making them even bigger. 2.3T+10AT would be nice.

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But no. We get black, white, other white, gray, gray-blue, and red.
:dat:

and the gray-blue is only available on the GT :bs:

Red is probably my preferred color on these given the options.
It's not even red, :disappoint:

It's AARPurple.

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:dat:

and the gray-blue is only available on the GT :bs:

Red is probably my preferred color on these given the options.
It's not even red, :disappoint:

It's AARPurple.
Tan interior too. :jimp:
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Still :waxer: and questionable on the reliability front. Maybe a :povertytruck: with a camper bed is the way to go? Could even keep it "Mazda" with a B-series. IIRC the regular cabs are around 188x70" footprint with a 6 ft bed. Annoyingly it seems like the new rangers will be a lot bigger and not come in regular cab versions, making them even bigger. 2.3T+10AT would be nice.
A :povertytruck: would be sweet, I like them a lot. Regular cab, camper top, will tow what you want to and be decently comfortable for track side camping IMO.

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I was looking at these the other day, thinking about one day finally building that F-Mod car if we end up in Charlotte with a real garage. Seems like a great option for non- :truk: people. 188x74" relatively compact footprint with bulletproof DOHC V8, 6500 lb tow rating, and fancy Lexus interior. For a little more cash you can go super low mileage and drive the thing forever:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... ode1=GX470

I'd ideally go for a midsize van instead of an SUV but they don't sell any in this country except for the benz, ain't nobody got time for an out of warranty modern German car :doe:
troy and I agree on a thing, muchless a car!? :mindblown:

they are very high on my list of things I'd pull trigger on.

:howdy: :mahtroy:

glad to see ya back in the hood.
:mindblown: I agree... the one car DFD members can agree on is a snooze fest mom SUV :wtf:

They are really underrated vehicles though. As capable as a 4Runner but nicer and cheaper. :notbad: .

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troy and I agree on a thing, muchless a car!? :mindblown:

they are very high on my list of things I'd pull trigger on.

:howdy: :mahtroy:

glad to see ya back in the hood.
:mindblown: I agree... the one car DFD members can agree on is a snooze fest mom SUV :wtf:

They are really underrated vehicles though. As capable as a 4Runner but nicer and cheaper. :notbad: .
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But luxury per $ on the used market is hard to beat.

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:mindblown: I agree... the one car DFD members can agree on is a snooze fest mom SUV :wtf:

They are really underrated vehicles though. As capable as a 4Runner but nicer and cheaper. :notbad: .
:dat:

But luxury per $ on the used market is hard to beat.

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I don't really want one, but it might be the best option by the time I consider price, reliability, etc. 2WD Sequoia or an actual half ton van are likely better if I could get over never being able to park in a garage or fit easily in parking spaces.

Just let the thing rot outside, right?

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:wap: Where are these mangos?

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Hey Dave!!

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cultur ... ate=041418
I was at Retro-Classics a couple weeks ago. The 928 want is strong. The frau approves as well. The car is lower and wider than most think and its so unique and attractive today. Garage space is an issue. I know the maintenance is a pain but the cars are just so cool compared to what's out there these days.

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Did some more research last night and it looks like :minivan: might actually be my answer if I'm realistic. 2011+ :doge: caravan has the 3.6 pentastar which makes decent power and is reliable enough on regular gas, has tons of space with the rear seats removed, is rated for 3600 lbs towing, and has depreciated way better than an SUV or :truk:

$10k buys a sub-50k mile one already, they're practically worthless. Another couple of years and they'll be nearly free.

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Did some more research last night and it looks like :minivan: might actually be my answer if I'm realistic. 2011+ :doge: caravan has the 3.6 pentastar which makes decent power and is reliable enough on regular gas, has tons of space with the rear seats removed, is rated for 3600 lbs towing, and has depreciated way better than an SUV or :truk:

$10k buys a sub-50k mile one already, they're practically worthless. Another couple of years and they'll be nearly free.
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I like the idea of a loaded passenger one so you can see while driving it, have rear ac/heat, etc. You can always block the windows while parked.

It's weird how cheap they are now, makes an SUV seem incredibly stupid in comparison.

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:jimp: :impressive:

Hey Dave!!

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cultur ... ate=041418
I was at Retro-Classics a couple weeks ago. The 928 want is strong. The frau approves as well. The car is lower and wider than most think and its so unique and attractive today. Garage space is an issue. I know the maintenance is a pain but the cars are just so cool compared to what's out there these days.
That would be :mindblown: awesome if you actually bought one! :jelly:
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Did some more research last night and it looks like :minivan: might actually be my answer if I'm realistic. 2011+ :doge: caravan has the 3.6 pentastar which makes decent power and is reliable enough on regular gas, has tons of space with the rear seats removed, is rated for 3600 lbs towing, and has depreciated way better than an SUV or :truk:

$10k buys a sub-50k mile one already, they're practically worthless. Another couple of years and they'll be nearly free.
Friends of mine bought one new back in 2011, with the Pentastar, and it's been quite reliable for them, first model year and all. They've taken it on several long road trips and he DD's it to work every day.
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Gonna be a lot of cheerios and apple juice stains in a sub $10k :doge: caravan.

They're fine though. Not bad for towing despite FWD. Our trucks handled heavier loads better but the interior arrangement of the minivans can't be beat.
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Gonna be a lot of cheerios and apple juice stains in a sub $10k :doge: caravan.

They're fine though. Not bad for towing despite FWD. Our trucks handled heavier loads better but the interior arrangement of the minivans can't be beat.
Nah, just gotta buy one that was owned by a :wap: kinda guy and went back and forth to Florida.

No cheerios and comfy leather seats. Hope you like beige, doe.
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Gonna be a lot of cheerios and apple juice stains in a sub $10k :doge: caravan.

They're fine though. Not bad for towing despite FWD. Our trucks handled heavier loads better but the interior arrangement of the minivans can't be beat.
Nah, just gotta buy one that was owned by a :wap: kinda guy and went back and forth to Florida.

No cheerios and comfy leather seats. Hope you like beige, doe.
Gold outside. Beige inside. Throw on the aviators and NFG ride the couch.
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Nah, just gotta buy one that was owned by a :wap: kinda guy and went back and forth to Florida.

No cheerios and comfy leather seats. Hope you like beige, doe.
Gold outside. Beige inside. Throw on the aviators and NFG ride the couch.
Do it in style! :like:

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Gonna be a lot of cheerios and apple juice stains in a sub $10k :doge: caravan.

They're fine though. Not bad for towing despite FWD. Our trucks handled heavier loads better but the interior arrangement of the minivans can't be beat.
Nah, just gotta buy one that was owned by a :wap: kinda guy and went back and forth to Florida.

No cheerios and comfy leather seats. Hope you like beige, doe.
It's nuts how cheap these things can be found, no need to deal with cheerios at all.

It's looking like I'd start with a 493/494cc 2-stroke powered car, 75" wheelbase, 55" wide and around 96" long nose to tail, 650 lbs empty. On a light 5x8 aluminum trailer it could easily be 1200 lbs or less with some tools/spares. That's within range to tow with pretty much anything. 2010 JSW 2.0T+DSG perhaps... or even a 2017 GTI Sport in a couple years when they're $12-15k. That could function as tow vehicle and entertaining DD all in one, leaving room for a fun :manuel: project car later. :minivan: would certainly be better as a camper :doe: and use fewer water pumps.

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I have an equal desire for a 2004-2008 Lexus GX 470. It would be a GREAT jeep replacement. And I would have no car payment.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... ode1=GX470

https://jackson.craigslist.org/cto/d/20 ... 13779.html

They can be had for $6k-12k with under 150k miles. Should last to 250k. There is a decent aftermarket support. Gets 14/18mpg. Can tow more than :jeep:

Some models have a BITCHIN fold up 3rd row seat.

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very popular cars in central/south america, and turkey/middle east. But called Toyota Land Cruiser Prado, I've seen a decent amount of 2005ish models on the road and doesn't sound tired by any means.

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and yet has a 370Z plate frame. Might as well remove that.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-te ... ine-2018-4

Tesla trying to get it right.....


Tesla Idling Model 3 Shows Musk Unable to Make On-the-Fly Fixes


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