US Coalition Airstrikes Against Syrian Chemical Weapons

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KYGTIGuy wrote:
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:41 am


See, I'm consistent on the fact that we should just leave the sandbox to sandbox things and not be involved.
Fair enough.

Where do you take a stand? At our border?
Assad was never a threat to the US. We jumped into a damn civil war. His civil war spawned in the power vacuum we originally created with terrible sandbox policy. We aid'ed one group of "moderate rebels" WHICH WAS THE SAME FUCKING GROUP OF ASSHATS WE WERE FIGHTING JUST A COUNTRY OVER. We have ruined nearly every country in the sandbox and decreased their quality of life.

Then the arms we gave one group show up being used against us in another war.

Endless wars are what I am against. Either take full military action, taken legally with congressional approval, or stay out of other countries problems.
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:35 am

dubshow wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:31 am
KYGTIGuy wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:50 am


Fair enough.

Where do you take a stand? At our border?
Assad was never a threat to the US. We jumped into a damn civil war. His civil war spawned in the power vacuum we originally created with terrible sandbox policy. We aid'ed one group of "moderate rebels" WHICH WAS THE SAME FUCKING GROUP OF ASSHATS WE WERE FIGHTING JUST A COUNTRY OVER. We have ruined nearly every country in the sandbox and decreased their quality of life.

Then the arms we gave one group show up being used against us in another war.

Endless wars are what I am against. Either take full military action, taken legally with congressional approval, or stay out of other countries problems.
I understand all that. The use of chemical weapons complicates or more.

Trump said we were pulling out, then Assad uses weapons he knows will draw is back in at a point he doesn't need to use them. Lot of people suggesting that was intentional to keep us involved and depleting blood and treasure

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Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:00 am

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Good a line as any. Also if our allies are being attacked directly on their soil and ask for assistance, like WW2.

Or you know a really good reason that gets consensus in congress, you know, like how the constitution (IE literal law of the land) is written.
I don't have a real strong opinion on it but I feel like if you let things get so bad that it makes it to your door step, it might be too late.

Obama went to Congress to get approval and was denied. They said if he attacked, they would impeach. Now crickets.

From what I understand, the war powers act gves authorization for 30 or 60 days but I'm not sure.
and its a bad law and authorization for war needs to come from congress.
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golftdibrad wrote:
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KYGTIGuy wrote:
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I don't have a real strong opinion on it but I feel like if you let things get so bad that it makes it to your door step, it might be too late.

Obama went to Congress to get approval and was denied. They said if he attacked, they would impeach. Now crickets.

From what I understand, the war powers act gves authorization for 30 or 60 days but I'm not sure.
and its a bad law and authorization for war needs to come from congress.
In this day and age Congress could act in 1 day if necessary. No need for 60 day time frame

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KYGTIGuy wrote:
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and its a bad law and authorization for war needs to come from congress.
In this day and age Congress could act in 1 day if necessary. No need for 60 day time frame
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:43 pm

I can agree that we should not be involved as heavily as we are in many conflicts.

I will stand against the use of internationally banned chemical weapons. That shits not a joke.

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