DFD

Melon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:17 am Whatever I post, DFD will tell me I'm stupid and wrong for enjoying it.

Melon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:17 am Whatever I post, DFD will tell me I'm stupid and wrong for enjoying it.

NeonJonny wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:24 am OP You're an IT engineer? Get a job with a wastwater agency like me. That kinda job sounds like you'd make 100k here. trade off with the 500k houses though. Always new challenges with any position in this field. I post enough shit on snapchat.

Apex wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:29 am

NeonJonny wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:24 am OP You're an IT engineer? Get a job with a wastwater agency like me. That kinda job sounds like you'd make 100k here. trade off with the 500k houses though. Always new challenges with any position in this field. I post enough shit on snapchat.

He can literally post shit.

NeonJonny wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:24 am OP You're an IT engineer? Get a job with a wastwater agency like me. That kinda job sounds like you'd make 100k here. trade off with the 500k houses though. Always new challenges with any position in this field. I post enough shit on snapchat.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:26 pm I had a job I loved and they took it away from me.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:37 pm I'd take a small cut for stability and regular pay, for sure.

dtraill27 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:17 am I'm on the hunt for a new job and have been thinking about a total career change as a possibility as well. I currently work as an IT engineer (network/server admin) and I am bored out of my mind. Outside of working on projects when I truly have work to do and am engaged I probably work less than 5 hours a week. I work for a decently sized accounting firm with over 40 offices and on a day to day basis there just isn't work to do. I know a lot of issues I have with IT are from my current position, number 1 being that I am completely isolated and can go months without seeing a fellow IT worker in person ( everything is conf calls and IMs through skype). I worked for a college previously and was bored there too but at least IT was centralized and the comradery aspect was there.

As crazy as it sounds I'm looking for something that is going to give me more work to do and actually engage me. I just got a job offer for a signal maintainer for a local railroad and it sounded amazing but it was too much of a pay cut in year 1 and no PTO for 2 years so I had to turn it down. I like working with my hands so something along those lines would be cool as well as something that could involve outside work but not a requirement. I'm basically looking for ideas on something that involves spending time away from a desk as that's my main requirement.

Right now I look on indeed for any jobs at like 55k and apply to things that sound interesting but I know there are plenty of places that don't advertise on there so looking for ideas I haven't thought of yet. Not looking to relocate but I have a pretty wide area of PA to search from Wilkes-Barre to Lansdale/Norristownish. I have a BS in Computer Information Systems with a minor in Business Admin and 7 years full time progressive IT experience.

So DFD what careers haven't I thought of or what companies should I look into

razr390 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:50 pm You could always become a or FireFighter

dubshow wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:30 pm strangest most lucrative job to date: damage assessor. ~$40-50/hr w/ a lot of over time for a VERY simple job that many people cant do correctly. I just ended a 6mo stint at that. Made up for the lack of work for the past year.

Took a pay cut to work with and in the industrial world, trade off is corp office gig. i get to think and have job stability.

dtraill27 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:08 pm

razr390 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:50 pm You could always become a or FireFighter

I've actually looked in to both, considering volunteer firefighting with my town since they need people. I was really interested in law enforcement and my brother in law just became a state trooper in SC. I got diagnosed with UC back in the fall though so from what I've read its a lot harder to get into the academy with it. I also was really considering the Coast Guard OCS for IT but now thats out because of this stupid disease

dtraill27 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:02 am
On a side note the whole industry trend to not include salary or salary ranges in postings is infuriating. How is this not a huge waste of time applying/interviewing and then finding out it pays crap.

CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:59 pm

dtraill27 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:02 am
On a side note the whole industry trend to not include salary or salary ranges in postings is infuriating. How is this not a huge waste of time applying/interviewing and then finding out it pays crap.

I agree with you on the salary ranges, but to be honest, everyone applying would be insulted if they weren't offered at the high end of the range.

I have a big problem filling positions with my recruiters for this reason. I always start off with the recruiter asking them to find out what the candidate is looking for (it is now illegal in California to ask what they are currently earning, or previously made... ).

The recruiters almost always come back with something at the top end of a certain career level, so let's say the range is $90k - $139K. The real number in that range would be something close to $120k to be at market value and anything over is 1.0+ market pay percentage. In order to be 1.05+ market you need to be ranked in the top x% of the employees of the business unit. There's almost no way I can bring someone in at that high of a salary because at the yearly review I won't have any head room for increases, and I can't promote them to the next career level that soon, or solely based on salary desires. Most of the time the recruiter comes back with "They are looking for $134K, which is in range!!!!" Uh, no... And if I were to bump the career level up to get the salary and they can't perform those duties that are required, I get in trouble when it comes to my resourcing needs.

Think about it, if you heard a position paid between $90-139K, would you be happy getting an offer of $105K if you had only 1-2 years experience? If you said yes, you are a and I thank you for being realistic... most people aren't ant think they deserve the most for the least experience..

SAWCE wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:02 pm

CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:59 pm

I agree with you on the salary ranges, but to be honest, everyone applying would be insulted if they weren't offered at the high end of the range.

I have a big problem filling positions with my recruiters for this reason. I always start off with the recruiter asking them to find out what the candidate is looking for (it is now illegal in California to ask what they are currently earning, or previously made... ).

The recruiters almost always come back with something at the top end of a certain career level, so let's say the range is $90k - $139K. The real number in that range would be something close to $120k to be at market value and anything over is 1.0+ market pay percentage. In order to be 1.05+ market you need to be ranked in the top x% of the employees of the business unit. There's almost no way I can bring someone in at that high of a salary because at the yearly review I won't have any head room for increases, and I can't promote them to the next career level that soon, or solely based on salary desires. Most of the time the recruiter comes back with "They are looking for $134K, which is in range!!!!" Uh, no... And if I were to bump the career level up to get the salary and they can't perform those duties that are required, I get in trouble when it comes to my resourcing needs.

Think about it, if you heard a position paid between $90-139K, would you be happy getting an offer of $105K if you had only 1-2 years experience? If you said yes, you are a and I thank you for being realistic... most people aren't ant think they deserve the most for the least experience..

I expect to come in low-mid range and prove myself while working over a few years, climbing up in the range, and hopefully earing a promotion to the next level as I do so. Anti-

This job, for example, range is 50k-90k here. I was brough on at 60k, and I've busted my ass over the last year, and my boss has told me he's put me up for a 10k increase when reviews with out CEO come up next month.

CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:59 pm

dtraill27 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:02 am
On a side note the whole industry trend to not include salary or salary ranges in postings is infuriating. How is this not a huge waste of time applying/interviewing and then finding out it pays crap.

I agree with you on the salary ranges, but to be honest, everyone applying would be insulted if they weren't offered at the high end of the range.

I have a big problem filling positions with my recruiters for this reason. I always start off with the recruiter asking them to find out what the candidate is looking for (it is now illegal in California to ask what they are currently earning, or previously made... ).

The recruiters almost always come back with something at the top end of a certain career level, so let's say the range is $90k - $139K. The real number in that range would be something close to $120k to be at market value and anything over is 1.0+ market pay percentage. In order to be 1.05+ market you need to be ranked in the top x% of the employees of the business unit. There's almost no way I can bring someone in at that high of a salary because at the yearly review I won't have any head room for increases, and I can't promote them to the next career level that soon, or solely based on salary desires. Most of the time the recruiter comes back with "They are looking for $134K, which is in range!!!!" Uh, no... And if I were to bump the career level up to get the salary and they can't perform those duties that are required, I get in trouble when it comes to my resourcing needs.

Think about it, if you heard a position paid between $90-139K, would you be happy getting an offer of $105K if you had only 1-2 years experience? If you said yes, you are a and I thank you for being realistic... most people aren't ant think they deserve the most for the least experience..