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Damn that thing weighs the same as my 3 series ...

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:00 am Damn that thing weighs the same as my 3 series ...

105.7" wheel base
177.7" long
72.3" wide
50.4" high

wap wrote:

troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:04 pm The reason the XLR was a failure was that it was ridiculously expensive new. Like $80k for the base model in 2004, when a Z06 was $50k. The "V" version was over $100k.

Coincidentally enough, I am currently reading my July, 2003 Road & Track and there is a road test of the then-new XLR. It based for $75,435, so yea.

Some stats:
320hp at 6400 rpm
310 lb/ft torque at 6700 rpm
3660 lbs
0-60 5.6s
1/4 mile in 14s at 1.2.6 mph
Top speed 155 (limited)
.88g skidpad
235/50 R-18 tars

It had the upcoming C6 suspension.

Yeah, 50% more money and 500 lbs heavier than a Z06, with almost 100 fewer hp. No wonder it didn't sell!

It's a good cruiser, and a good used buy today

troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:58 pm

wap wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:48 pm
So they didn't come with a hard top option then? Too bad.

I always liked the Northstar. why some here shit on it.

They're all retractable hard tops.

Northstar had Subaru-esque head gasket issues, but is otherwise a good engine. Makes decent power and feels/sounds nice and sporty in the top end like a proper DOHC design, does not rumble and shake the whole fucking car at stop lights as if a plug wire is loose 1960s style, 4/7 engine overall.

Eh, the Northstar has a chronic problem with the head bolt holes stripping. Go to replace the head gasket that's prone to failure, and you're suddenly helicoiling every head bolt hole. It's ridiculously common, and makes it pretty

Troy, I'd be really curious to hear what you think of my Ellis. Revs to 6,800 which is near peak HP of 443, not a ton of torque (380), short gearing that takes advantage of power band, cam with a mild LSA that doesn't shake like a loose plug wire, etc.

It's the least trucky of any ellis I've experienced.

wap wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:29 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:11 pm

Honestly, the 200H was a great driving car. If they threw a 2.0T and in it, it would have been a proper hot hatch. Shame.

Did it only ever come with a hybrid drivetrain?

Yeah it's a Prius drivetrain and that's it. Even the "F Sport" model.

wap wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:48 pm

troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:15 pm

The main annoying thing about it (similar to the Skystice) is that the top takes up most of the trunk space if you put it down, so you essentially must choose between having a trunk and having a convertible. I don't think my dad has ever put the top down besides showing me how it worked when he bought it. It's otherwise always up. Dat coupe lyfe.

They do look cool and if it weren't for the slushbox they'd be fun cars. The Northstar is great in it.

So they didn't come with a hard top option then? Too bad.

I always liked the Northstar. why some here shit on it.

It's just a engine. The LS makes more power, is more reliable, weighs less and is more compact, and IIRC gets better fuel mileage on top of it all. The Deathstar sounds better and is smoother but that's all it's got going for it.

https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/2017-bmw ... x/32217/31

Dude bought a BMW 330xi wagon that was a dealer loaner for $265/mo all in, $700 drive off. 24mo / 10k miles. BMW has a $3k lease incentive right meow that apparently applies to dealer loaner cars.

Detroit wrote:Eh, the Northstar has a chronic problem with the head bolt holes stripping. Go to replace the head gasket that's prone to failure, and you're suddenly helicoiling every head bolt hole. It's ridiculously common, and makes it pretty

Troy, I'd be really curious to hear what you think of my Ellis. Revs to 6,800 which is near peak HP of 443, not a ton of torque (380), short gearing that takes advantage of power band, cam with a mild LSA that doesn't shake like a loose plug wire, etc.

It's the least trucky of any ellis I've experienced.

Yours is probably good, especially since you have a reasonable exhaust.

I hated the idle on my LS6

troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:22 am

wap wrote:
Coincidentally enough, I am currently reading my July, 2003 Road & Track and there is a road test of the then-new XLR. It based for $75,435, so yea.

Some stats:
320hp at 6400 rpm
310 lb/ft torque at 6700 rpm
3660 lbs
0-60 5.6s
1/4 mile in 14s at 1.2.6 mph
Top speed 155 (limited)
.88g skidpad
235/50 R-18 tars

It had the upcoming C6 suspension.

Yeah, 50% more money and 500 lbs heavier than a Z06, with almost 100 fewer hp. No wonder it didn't sell!

It's a good cruiser, and a good used buy today

Yea it seems like it would be a nice car for a (not me) experiencing their mid/late-life crisis.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:32 am

wap wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:29 pm

Did it only ever come with a hybrid drivetrain?

Yeah it's a Prius drivetrain and that's it. Even the "F Sport" model.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:00 pm https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/2017-bmw ... x/32217/31

Dude bought a BMW 330xi wagon that was a dealer loaner for $265/mo all in, $700 drive off. 24mo / 10k miles. BMW has a $3k lease incentive right meow that apparently applies to dealer loaner cars.

That's pretty good! 10k miles is low... but perhaps a good turo car!

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:40 pm

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:00 pm https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/2017-bmw ... x/32217/31

Dude bought a BMW 330xi wagon that was a dealer loaner for $265/mo all in, $700 drive off. 24mo / 10k miles. BMW has a $3k lease incentive right meow that apparently applies to dealer loaner cars.

That's pretty good! 10k miles is low... but perhaps a good turo car!

I'd sell the STI and drive that for $265/mo NFG. Throw in wheel and tire insurance, and damage coverage and off into the sunset with in the back seat and bike on the roof.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:46 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:40 pm

That's pretty good! 10k miles is low... but perhaps a good turo car!

I'd sell the STI and drive that for $265/mo NFG. Throw in wheel and tire insurance, and damage coverage and off into the sunset with in the back seat and bike on the roof.

It is a pretty deal the best "comparable" deal was on a used 328i that was leased for $350...

$270 all in is insane.

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:50 pm

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:46 pm

I'd sell the STI and drive that for $265/mo NFG. Throw in wheel and tire insurance, and damage coverage and off into the sunset with in the back seat and bike on the roof.

It is a pretty deal the best "comparable" deal was on a used 328i that was leased for $350...

$270 all in is insane.

Yeah I know. I mean, I was quoted $270 +$2500 drive off for a Mini Cooper S.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:54 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:50 pm

It is a pretty deal the best "comparable" deal was on a used 328i that was leased for $350...

$270 all in is insane.

Yeah I know. I mean, I was quoted $270 +$2500 drive off for a Mini Cooper S.

$299+3k for me... and that was for a 28k cooper S discounted by 5k

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75057.html

Superb 911 86 model. Caring owner to say the least.

Davestr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:36 pm https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75057.html

Superb 911 86 model. Caring owner to say the least.

Nice little Mini Cooper go box - https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75134.html

Would take this over any modern Aston. The engine is a fucking work of art. Superb exhaust note on these.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75283.html

Davestr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:22 pm Would take this over any modern Aston. The engine is a fucking work of art. Superb exhaust nite on these.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75283.html

That's very interesting looking... kind of like a Mustang clone that fucked a XJ jag. Is it base on the jag?

There are receipts for $101,949.54, not including the initial cost of the car.

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:28 pm

Davestr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:22 pm Would take this over any modern Aston. The engine is a fucking work of art. Superb exhaust nite on these.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75283.html

That's very interesting looking... kind of like a Mustang clone that fucked a XJ jag. Is it base on the jag?

No. These are unique. What Jag looked like this in 79. This is handmade Brit auto art of the era.

Davestr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:13 pm Nice little Mini Cooper go box - https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75134.html

I think that's one of the worsts years for mini period.

Davestr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:22 pm Would take this over any modern Aston. The engine is a fucking work of art. Superb exhaust note on these.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75283.html

Yeah that's amazing. I assume this is in the "if you have to ask you can't afford it pal" price range.

Davestr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:22 pm Would take this over any modern Aston. The engine is a fucking work of art. Superb exhaust note on these.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de ... 75283.html

As cool as they are, they look too much like a Mustang to me to be worth more than my house.