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Car Talk 2: Un-American Motor Company.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:55 am
by Johnny_P
Tarspin wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:53 am
Johnny_P wrote:Beater recommendations?
-Under $10k
-Under 100k miles
-Reliable
-Preference for automatic and larger motor
-Street parkable so 180" in length or less is desirable
-Needs at least a back seat, back doors would be ideal

I also can't deal with cars that have horrible body control. The older Wranglers and Panther frame cars are totally out of the picture. Older SUVs might too. Too much swaying or floaty suspension will cause me to barf even if I'm driving.
Previous gen IS350, go highway driven higher mileage to get the price down.
Not bad idea

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:59 am
by Apex
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:38 am Beater recommendations?
-Under $10k
-Under 100k miles
-Reliable
-Preference for automatic and larger motor
-Street parkable so 180" in length or less is desirable
-Needs at least a back seat, back doors would be ideal

I also can't deal with cars that have horrible body control. The older Wranglers and Panther frame cars are totally out of the picture. Older SUVs might too. Too much swaying or floaty suspension will cause me to barf even if I'm driving.
DSG GTI. /bread




:trollface:

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:02 pm
by Johnny_P
Apex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:59 am
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:38 am Beater recommendations?
-Under $10k
-Under 100k miles
-Reliable
-Preference for automatic and larger motor
-Street parkable so 180" in length or less is desirable
-Needs at least a back seat, back doors would be ideal

I also can't deal with cars that have horrible body control. The older Wranglers and Panther frame cars are totally out of the picture. Older SUVs might too. Too much swaying or floaty suspension will cause me to barf even if I'm driving.
DSG GTI. /bread




:trollface:
No VWs. Especially at this price point.

Although a stupid cheap lease with damage protection isn't out of the picture.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:03 pm
by Tar
Johnny_P wrote:
Apex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:59 am DSG GTI. /bread




:trollface:
No VWs. Especially at this price point.

Although a stupid cheap lease with damage protection isn't out of the picture.
Hyundai accent

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:04 pm
by Apex
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:02 pm
Apex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:59 am

DSG GTI. /bread




:trollface:
No VWs. Especially at this price point.

Although a stupid cheap lease with damage protection isn't out of the picture.
In all seriousness, I'd look around for a Xterra. If it handles well enough for you it should check all of the boxes. Bike, doge, etc.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:04 pm
by troyguitar
Tarspin wrote:
Johnny_P wrote:Beater recommendations?
-Under $10k
-Under 100k miles
-Reliable
-Preference for automatic and larger motor
-Street parkable so 180" in length or less is desirable
-Needs at least a back seat, back doors would be ideal

I also can't deal with cars that have horrible body control. The older Wranglers and Panther frame cars are totally out of the picture. Older SUVs might too. Too much swaying or floaty suspension will cause me to barf even if I'm driving.
Previous gen IS350, go highway driven higher mileage to get the price down.
IS350 is winning. Heated and cooled seats too.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:24 pm
by Davestr
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:02 pm
Apex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:59 am

DSG GTI. /bread




:trollface:
No VWs. Especially at this price point.

Although a stupid cheap lease with damage protection isn't out of the picture.
Subi wagon-Outback/Honda CRV etc...............

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:26 pm
by Calvinball
Davestr wrote:
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:02 pm No VWs. Especially at this price point.

Although a stupid cheap lease with damage protection isn't out of the picture.
Subi wagon-Outback/Honda CRV etc...............
Forester would be better than Outback.


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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:36 pm
by Johnny_P
troyguitar wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:04 pm
Tarspin wrote:Previous gen IS350, go highway driven higher mileage to get the price down.
IS350 is winning. Heated and cooled seats too.
Yeah I forgot they had that. G37 is another nice pick from Japan.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:36 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:33 pm
[user not found] wrote:
Cheap sweaty Jetta 1.8T lease. /bread
Leasing a car then owning it in the city seems risky.
Pay extra for excessive damage up front and it's probably fine.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:37 pm
by Johnny_P
Calvinball wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:26 pm
Davestr wrote:
Subi wagon-Outback/Honda CRV etc...............
Forester would be better than Outback.


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Yeah an older Forester isn't a bad idea if you don't mind manual transmission. I'd prefer no MT. And the 4AT older Foresters are dog slow. Same price-ish gets you into a Mazda CX5 so that's something to consider too.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:38 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:37 pm Also: Volvo S60.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/
Old car and reliability is lacking on these. They're expensive to fix because parts are :waxer: and the electrical systems are very convoluted on these making them a bear to own used. I wouldn't pick an older Volvo over an IS350 or G37.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:40 pm
by Johnny_P
Detroit wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:36 pm
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:33 pm Leasing a car then owning it in the city seems risky.
Pay extra for excessive damage up front and it's probably fine.
GF leased her Tiguan. It got backed into once, tiny black scratch on black car :whocares: she won't have to pay anything for the damage. IIRC it was like $200/mo or so with minimal drive off and down payment of like $1200 or something.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:41 pm
by Davestr
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:32 pm
Davestr wrote:
Subi wagon-Outback/Honda CRV etc...............
Can't get into a CRV at 10k till you are around 125k miles, sadly.
Bummer - solid vehicles

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:33 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:15 pm
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:33 pm Leasing a car then owning it in the city seems risky.
Just get lease protection.

On MINI it'd safeguard you up to $5k of damage, including windshield and a set of tires at the end of the lease.
Yeah that’s worth it really.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:01 pm
by Calvinball
Johnny_P wrote:
Calvinball wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:26 pm

Forester would be better than Outback.


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Yeah an older Forester isn't a bad idea if you don't mind manual transmission. I'd prefer no MT. And the 4AT older Foresters are dog slow. Same price-ish gets you into a Mazda CX5 so that's something to consider too.
They are slow, but I liked driving it more than the Impreza at the time.


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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:03 pm
by Apex
Calvinball wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:01 pm
Johnny_P wrote:
Yeah an older Forester isn't a bad idea if you don't mind manual transmission. I'd prefer no MT. And the 4AT older Foresters are dog slow. Same price-ish gets you into a Mazda CX5 so that's something to consider too.
They are slow, but I liked driving it more than the Impreza at the time.


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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:14 pm
by Apex
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:10 pm
Apex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:03 pm

FXT
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Same engine he has now. :lolol:
:lolol:

Available with auto plus more bike and :doge: friendly! :fuckyeah:

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:44 pm
by Davestr
Apex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:14 pm
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:10 pm

Same engine he has now. :lolol:
:lolol:

Available with auto plus more bike and :doge: friendly! :fuckyeah:
Hard to find???

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:51 pm
by troyguitar
Detroit wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:07 am
Tarspin wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:55 am I've had this feel
The key is to have a DD/bad weather vehicle you don't hate. Then it's not so much a desire to :plac: but looking forward to driving the other car again. I miss driving my :poorvette: but that just makes me more excited for April when I can bring the bish out again. In the interim, I just hoon the Hoontruck and enjoy it quite a bit.
I think I'm getting close enough to over the hump on that front I should perhaps just stick it out instead of going full :plac:

I've been working on car shit almost constantly since April, between getting the :poorvette: out of here, getting the MR2 purchased and sorted, and now getting the Vibe sorted... I don't have time to keep doing that every single week. At this point the MR2 needs nothing except for wheel+tire setup decisions to be made. Vibe needs driver's seat swap to be re-done with the good ebay seat and then to figure out the Celica steering rack swap in the spring. That should be the end of working on crap for another year or two.

I'd almost certainly spend less over the next few years to :plac: back to a single $10k car :doe: - Doing nothing but adding gas and oil to an RX8 and then swapping wheels twice a year for winter is quite appealing, even if it ends up being cash neutral from all the extra gas.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:35 pm
by troyguitar
[user not found] wrote:
troyguitar wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:51 pm I think I'm getting close enough to over the hump on that front I should perhaps just stick it out instead of going full :plac:

I've been working on car shit almost constantly since April, between getting the :poorvette: out of here, getting the MR2 purchased and sorted, and now getting the Vibe sorted... I don't have time to keep doing that every single week. At this point the MR2 needs nothing except for wheel+tire setup decisions to be made. Vibe needs driver's seat swap to be re-done with the good ebay seat and then to figure out the Celica steering rack swap in the spring. That should be the end of working on crap for another year or two.

I'd almost certainly spend less over the next few years to :plac: back to a single $10k car :doe: - Doing nothing but adding gas and oil to an RX8 and then swapping wheels twice a year for winter is quite appealing, even if it ends up being cash neutral from all the extra gas.
It's always cheaper to not :plac:

:plac: is fun and exciting, doe. No farts or unfamiliar farts are always more fun than the same old farts.
The question is not whether to :plac: but when to :plac:

Ain't no :mahtroy: gonna keep the same stuff for eternity, and the cars that I actually like are only getting older and harder to find in good condition.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:40 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:10 pm
Apex wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:03 pm

FXT
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Same engine he has now. :lolol:
I test drove one. Was pretty turd tastic. Do not want.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:53 pm
by Gberg2119
Johnny_P wrote:
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:10 pm Same engine he has now. Imageol:
I test drove one. Was pretty turd tastic. Do not want.
Do you have an appointment with an adjuster yet?

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:55 pm
by Johnny_P
Gberg2119 wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:53 pm
Johnny_P wrote:
I test drove one. Was pretty turd tastic. Do not want.
Do you have an appointment with an adjuster yet?

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Filed claim but they haven't called me to set up a meeting. Lady said someone will call me by 5PM tomorrow to set it up.
Debating if I even care where they do the work. I will end up :plac: this car sooner than later. There's no fucking point to being an auto enthusiast in this place and parking that much money on the street.

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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:02 pm
by Apex
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:40 pm
[user not found] wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:10 pm

Same engine he has now. :lolol:
I test drove one. Was pretty turd tastic. Do not want.
:sass: