Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:02 pm
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Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:13 pm
Avalanche is a decent option. Yuge gas tanks, pretty cheap, common parts and relatively reliable.
It is however still YUGE.
It is however still YUGE.
Re: Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:08 pm
I'm with you man, it's just massive and heavy. If 4x4 means pre running then have at it, but otherwise I'd take smaller and lighter. Then again I am not a big fan of massive vehicles, the van seems huge to me.max225 wrote:Avalanche is a decent option. Yuge gas tanks, pretty cheap, common parts and relatively reliable.
It is however still YUGE.
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:17 pm
It really depends on the goal for the vehicle which somehow "offends" people when I ask and point out the short-commings. I don't see the bad thing in acknowledging a vehicles' weak points.rockchops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:08 pmI'm with you man, it's just massive and heavy. If 4x4 means pre running then have at it, but otherwise I'd take smaller and lighter. Then again I am not a big fan of massive vehicles, the van seems huge to me.max225 wrote:Avalanche is a decent option. Yuge gas tanks, pretty cheap, common parts and relatively reliable.
It is however still YUGE.
The downsides of the avalanche are numerous
1. Its hideous
2. It is older
3. It has terrible mpg, averaging at most 15
4. Shitty 4 speed auto, which is ancient
5. They are mostly all beat to shit because they have been out there for a decade between owners 1-10.
it does have plenty of upsides though.
1. Great aftermarket
2. Super cheap cost of entry
3. Cheap repair costs
4. Great ride quality
5. Long range (as mentioned) 31-7 GALLON TANK... at cali gas prices it is $110-130 to fill up that monster.
The part where it gets interesting is something like a lease on a cross trek, and given an equal 12k miles a year or so the fuel savings alone nearly pay for the monthly, and once you figure out that the subi will need 0 in repair and maintenance over 3 years. ($150 in oil changes), the Avalanche cheap price of entry begins to look like shit since it is just a tip of the iceberg in terms of expenses.
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:53 pm
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:56 pm
Shame the cross trek doesn’t get a better engine or lower gearing. Even just throwing the 2.5 in there would be amaze.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:17 pmIt really depends on the goal for the vehicle which somehow "offends" people when I ask and point out the short-commings. I don't see the bad thing in acknowledging a vehicles' weak points.
The downsides of the avalanche are numerous
1. Its hideous
2. It is older
3. It has terrible mpg, averaging at most 15
4. Shitty 4 speed auto, which is ancient
5. They are mostly all beat to shit because they have been out there for a decade between owners 1-10.
it does have plenty of upsides though.
1. Great aftermarket
2. Super cheap cost of entry
3. Cheap repair costs
4. Great ride quality
5. Long range (as mentioned) 31-7 GALLON TANK... at cali gas prices it is $110-130 to fill up that monster.
The part where it gets interesting is something like a lease on a cross trek, and given an equal 12k miles a year or so the fuel savings alone nearly pay for the monthly, and once you figure out that the subi will need 0 in repair and maintenance over 3 years. ($150 in oil changes), the Avalanche cheap price of entry begins to look like shit since it is just a tip of the iceberg in terms of expenses.
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:07 pm
But the performance is fairly similar between the two as the avalanche weighs 2500lbs more. The main issue on the Crosstranny is lack of low range, but I amJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:56 pmShame the cross trek doesn’t get a better engine or lower gearing. Even just throwing the 2.5 in there would be amaze.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:17 pm
It really depends on the goal for the vehicle which somehow "offends" people when I ask and point out the short-commings. I don't see the bad thing in acknowledging a vehicles' weak points.
The downsides of the avalanche are numerous
1. Its hideous
2. It is older
3. It has terrible mpg, averaging at most 15
4. Shitty 4 speed auto, which is ancient
5. They are mostly all beat to shit because they have been out there for a decade between owners 1-10.
it does have plenty of upsides though.
1. Great aftermarket
2. Super cheap cost of entry
3. Cheap repair costs
4. Great ride quality
5. Long range (as mentioned) 31-7 GALLON TANK... at cali gas prices it is $110-130 to fill up that monster.
The part where it gets interesting is something like a lease on a cross trek, and given an equal 12k miles a year or so the fuel savings alone nearly pay for the monthly, and once you figure out that the subi will need 0 in repair and maintenance over 3 years. ($150 in oil changes), the Avalanche cheap price of entry begins to look like shit since it is just a tip of the iceberg in terms of expenses.
if you truly need it as rock crawling is not something you can do in an avalanche without extensive mods anyways. I think the crosstranny while slow is still acceptable, it has 150hp and it weighs around 3200lbs, that is 
yes it won't win races but it isn't designed to do that.Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:14 pm
I am actually
on this one since for some reason I thought the avalanche was shorter and based on the Tahoe and not burban. But yep they share a chassis, both are equally retarded for real off-roading, but will do fine for soft-roading and walmart camping.Re: Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:39 pm
I get by with 85hp and 4000lbs ionomax225 wrote:But the performance is fairly similar between the two as the avalanche weighs 2500lbs more. The main issue on the Crosstranny is lack of low range, but I am
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:42 pm
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:51 pm
You should BaT that Delica for $40k... 4wd, import, rhd, van.rockchops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:39 pmI get by with 85hp and 4000lbs ionomax225 wrote:
But the performance is fairly similar between the two as the avalanche weighs 2500lbs more. The main issue on the Crosstranny is lack of low range, but I am
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:10 pm
Yeah but you have a shorter wheelbase than a Yaris.rockchops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:39 pmI get by with 85hp and 4000lbs ionomax225 wrote:
But the performance is fairly similar between the two as the avalanche weighs 2500lbs more. The main issue on the Crosstranny is lack of low range, but I am
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:54 pm
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:03 pm
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:41 pm
rockchops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:39 pmI get by with 85hp and 4000lbs ionomax225 wrote:
But the performance is fairly similar between the two as the avalanche weighs 2500lbs more. The main issue on the Crosstranny is lack of low range, but I am
is 85hp and 4000lbs ?Re: Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:49 pm
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:51 pm
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:18 am
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:58 am
There was a person this forum that abandoned a car in a Walmart parking. If memory serves, it literally sat there for months.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:56 pmYou are also not supposed to park in most walmart lots over night. Same shit different strokes. Lets be real here, is your sig other going to sleep with you in a walmart parking lot ? Or let you go on a weeklong trip where you do without judging? I am legit curious. I get this whole "let go of society" mindset and experience "nature" but that shit gets old quick when you're faced with the reality of the situation.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:54 pm
All I'm getting at is, for what I want to do, ability to sleep inside the vehicle in a pinch would come in very handy. Something that is easily possible in a Suburban, and much harder in a Crosstrek.
You absolutely cannot just set up a tent anywhere and camp in it wherever you please.
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:00 am
If you're able to pull it off, I think it'll be epic. It's something that a lot of us wish we had the guts or means to do, but for one reason or another never will. Go forth and conquer.
I really fucking hope you take this trip.
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:05 am
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:55 pm
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:26 pm
pop up? 
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:31 pm
Poverty 4x4 thread
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:33 pm
This car was so ahead of its time. Let's appreciate this for a second here...4zilch wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:05 am /bread
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/t-Used-Po ... =228667742
Sliding rear cargo tie down tray, much like the current 4Runner has in some trims, and like all the overlanding crowd wants and spends retard money on.
Party mode rear speakers with a controller in the back, that's just cool.
12V power in the back.
Completely flat floor because it's a minivan. 4x8 sheets of plywood can lay flat.
You could get an air mattress, air compressor, and tent attachment as a factory accessory.
The center console is a cooler and it's removable.
Split tailgate has butt cutouts and cup holders for 2 turning it into a bench.
AWD
A modicum of ground clearance for soft roading.
V6 engine
too bad it looks like ass inside and out, and had poor fuel economy.