Poverty 4x4 thread

[Desertbreh]

And you have epic s in your area. Can totally see the reservation. Coming out to your truck spray painted with dicks, windows broken, tires slashed, etc...that's a shitty experience.

Which is stupid because that H3 is probably no worse for the environment than a V8 4Runner or whatever.

Might be worth you at least checking it out?

I want it... but given my uncertain work/living arrangement. I am not sure it is the right move... i am pretty conservative about this.... the vehicle is epic, at least on paper. I haven't driven one yet so I don't know. But it can't possibly be bad for what it is.

It's completely incompatible with your planned urban apocalypse. Unless you ditch Mk.2 and dig in in the East Bay. Given all of these "stigma" issues all of you guys seem to be facing maybe you should just stick to the BMWs. LOL. Being self employed has highs and lows, I will add "drive whatever the fuck you want" to the highs list.

[D Griff]

I want it... but given my uncertain work/living arrangement. I am not sure it is the right move... i am pretty conservative about this.... the vehicle is epic, at least on paper. I haven't driven one yet so I don't know. But it can't possibly be bad for what it is.

It's completely incompatible with your planned urban apocalypse. Unless you ditch Mk.2 and dig in in the East Bay. Given all of these "stigma" issues all of you guys seem to be facing maybe you should just stick to the BMWs. LOL. Being self employed has highs and lows, I will add "drive whatever the fuck you want" to the highs list.

I definitely get a lot of push back at the office regarding owning a BMW and Corvette... can't even make the "your /CR-V/whatever cost more than my cars" argument because most people here just have shit cars. though, I drive what I like and can afford it because I share a one bedroom apartment and don't have half a dozen CF.

[max225]

I want it... but given my uncertain work/living arrangement. I am not sure it is the right move... i am pretty conservative about this.... the vehicle is epic, at least on paper. I haven't driven one yet so I don't know. But it can't possibly be bad for what it is.

It's completely incompatible with your planned urban apocalypse. Unless you ditch Mk.2 and dig in in the East Bay. Given all of these "stigma" issues all of you guys seem to be facing maybe you should just stick to the BMWs. LOL. Being self employed has highs and lows, I will add "drive whatever the fuck you want" to the highs list.

Mk2 is not a dumb moran who wants to be she is fully aware that a JLUR costs "more than a wedding" she welcomed the fact that this thing is only 13k. she drives a 2010 TSX with 90k miles and gives about 0 fucks about these things. For shits and giggles I brought up the hummer at the watercooler place... No one knows the H3 it seems however everyone knows the hummer brand... which is surprising. However a hummer in everyone's mind means H2. The H3 is a vivid outlier in that line up.

It is basically the same size and performance as a JLUR at 1/4 of the price. Granted with 100k farts + ancient 4 speed.

[Desertbreh]

It's completely incompatible with your planned urban apocalypse. Unless you ditch Mk.2 and dig in in the East Bay. Given all of these "stigma" issues all of you guys seem to be facing maybe you should just stick to the BMWs. LOL. Being self employed has highs and lows, I will add "drive whatever the fuck you want" to the highs list.

Mk2 is not a dumb moran who wants to be she is fully aware that a JLUR costs "more than a wedding" she welcomed the fact that this thing is only 13k. she drives a 2010 TSX with 90k miles and gives about 0 fucks about these things.

I wasn't coming down on Mk. 2 as a crazy rich asian. I was just saying that if guys are going to shack on Nob Hill and get rid of cars this doesn't jibe with that plan. Just tell your coworkers you got rid of your cars and park "off campus." You will have a nice rig for the Sierra and the leftist proletariat will admire you while also getting the nod on weekends from the locals in Truckee.

[max225]

Mk2 is not a dumb moran who wants to be she is fully aware that a JLUR costs "more than a wedding" she welcomed the fact that this thing is only 13k. she drives a 2010 TSX with 90k miles and gives about 0 fucks about these things.

I wasn't coming down on Mk. 2 as a crazy rich asian. I was just saying that if guys are going to shack on Nob Hill and get rid of cars this doesn't jibe with that plan. Just tell your coworkers you got rid of your cars and park "off campus." You will have a nice rig for the Sierra and the leftist proletariat will admire you while also getting the nod on weekends from the locals in Truckee.

Well, I'd still would like to be not completely car-free, something "cheap" that would serve as a transport would be good. As well as a weekend getaway thing. I have yet to drive one to see if it is even passable as a weekender. I can insure it for next to nothing under 1 way coverage and outside of minor initial maintenance I don't see myself spending more than 2k on it in 2 years, which is

I emailed the Hummer bro, asking about trans service and maintenance records if there are any.

[D Griff]

I wasn't coming down on Mk. 2 as a crazy rich asian. I was just saying that if guys are going to shack on Nob Hill and get rid of cars this doesn't jibe with that plan. Just tell your coworkers you got rid of your cars and park "off campus." You will have a nice rig for the Sierra and the leftist proletariat will admire you while also getting the nod on weekends from the locals in Truckee.

Well, I'd still would like to be not completely car-free, something "cheap" that would serve as a transport would be good. As well as a weekend getaway thing. I have yet to drive one to see if it is even passable as a weekender. I can insure it for next to nothing under 1 way coverage and outside of minor initial maintenance I don't see myself spending more than 2k on it in 2 years, which is

I emailed the Hummer bro, asking about trans service and maintenance records if there are any.

Seems reasonable to pursue it. If you go the city route, will you just try to get a place with a parking spot for this weekend getaway machine, or what? Honestly this isn't the worst city car, it's not all that huge and the low-ish price point is nice in a wasteland for car ownershit.

My paradise actually has a deck onsite and I just illegally own/park two cars in it, plus the fiancee's Fusion. We are technically allowed only two spots, one each. So far zero repercussions on that end, but worst case scenario, I could street park one or pay like $50/month for another spot.

Plenty of people cram and into the spots though, NFG. Charlotte is more spacious than SF though.

[max225]

Well, I'd still would like to be not completely car-free, something "cheap" that would serve as a transport would be good. As well as a weekend getaway thing. I have yet to drive one to see if it is even passable as a weekender. I can insure it for next to nothing under 1 way coverage and outside of minor initial maintenance I don't see myself spending more than 2k on it in 2 years, which is

I emailed the Hummer bro, asking about trans service and maintenance records if there are any.

Seems reasonable to pursue it. If you go the city route, will you just try to get a place with a parking spot for this weekend getaway machine, or what? Honestly this isn't the worst city car, it's not all that huge and the low-ish price point is nice in a wasteland for car ownershit.

My paradise actually has a deck onsite and I just illegally own/park two cars in it, plus the fiancee's Fusion. We are technically allowed only two spots, one each. So far zero repercussions on that end, but worst case scenario, I could street park one or pay like $50/month for another spot.

Plenty of people cram and into the spots though, NFG. Charlotte is more spacious than SF though.

My dad lives about 45 min away from SF. So I'd just park it there.

[D Griff]

Seems reasonable to pursue it. If you go the city route, will you just try to get a place with a parking spot for this weekend getaway machine, or what? Honestly this isn't the worst city car, it's not all that huge and the low-ish price point is nice in a wasteland for car ownershit.

My paradise actually has a deck onsite and I just illegally own/park two cars in it, plus the fiancee's Fusion. We are technically allowed only two spots, one each. So far zero repercussions on that end, but worst case scenario, I could street park one or pay like $50/month for another spot.

Plenty of people cram and into the spots though, NFG. Charlotte is more spacious than SF though.

My dad lives about 45 min away from SF. So I'd just park it there.

And poorblic transportation to East Bay for work? Or would you be trying to secure a new in-city job?

[max225]

My dad lives about 45 min away from SF. So I'd just park it there.

And poorblic transportation to East Bay for work? Or would you be trying to secure a new in-city job?

I'd do 3/2 3 days in the office 2 at homo, we also have an office in SF I have been using once a week as is.

I'd prefer public transit to work either way.

[Desertbreh]

Seems reasonable to pursue it. If you go the city route, will you just try to get a place with a parking spot for this weekend getaway machine, or what? Honestly this isn't the worst city car, it's not all that huge and the low-ish price point is nice in a wasteland for car ownershit.

My paradise actually has a deck onsite and I just illegally own/park two cars in it, plus the fiancee's Fusion. We are technically allowed only two spots, one each. So far zero repercussions on that end, but worst case scenario, I could street park one or pay like $50/month for another spot.

Plenty of people cram and into the spots though, NFG. Charlotte is more spacious than SF though.

My dad lives about 45 min away from SF. So I'd just park it there.

This is actually a remarkably good plan of action, all of it. You're not caged in the city waiting in line with all weekend, but you're also not paying out the ass for something you don't use that much. That H3 Alpha will not depreciate that much.

[max225]

My dad lives about 45 min away from SF. So I'd just park it there.

This is actually a remarkably good plan of action, all of it. You're not caged in the city waiting in line with :millennial:s all weekend, but you're also not paying out the ass for something you don't use that much. That H3 Alpha will not depreciate that much.

Yes, this is not an out of the blue type of thing, I gave it some thought. Hence the looking for JKs and used TJs... this seems like a far better value.

[D Griff]

My dad lives about 45 min away from SF. So I'd just park it there.

This is actually a remarkably good plan of action, all of it. You're not caged in the city waiting in line with all weekend, but you're also not paying out the ass for something you don't use that much. That H3 Alpha will not depreciate that much.

breh seal of approval carries more weight than the bible, IMO.

[Desertbreh]

This is actually a remarkably good plan of action, all of it. You're not caged in the city waiting in line with :millennial:s all weekend, but you're also not paying out the ass for something you don't use that much. That H3 Alpha will not depreciate that much.

Yes, this is not an out of the blue type of thing, I gave it some thought. Hence the looking for JKs and used TJs... this seems like a far better value.

:poverty:

[Desertbreh]

This is actually a remarkably good plan of action, all of it. You're not caged in the city waiting in line with all weekend, but you're also not paying out the ass for something you don't use that much. That H3 Alpha will not depreciate that much.

breh seal of approval carries more weight than the bible, IMO.

Max usually has his game plan thought out long before he "introduces" it to DFD.

[max225]

Yes, this is not an out of the blue type of thing, I gave it some thought. Hence the looking for JKs and used TJs... this seems like a far better value.

:poverty:

I attempted to find XJs and TJs in the 7000-10000 range. And it has been terrible, I even drove 2 TJs. They are not 4 figure cars... and frankly, they have a lot of problems due to sheer age. All of them needed suspension work, tons of delayed/deferred maintenance/wheels/tires etc. Nothing was turn key....

[Desertbreh]

:poverty:

I attempted to find XJs and TJs in the 7000-10000 range. And it has been terrible, I even drove 2 TJs. They are not 4 figure cars... and frankly, they have a lot of problems due to sheer age. All of them needed suspension work, tons of delayed/deferred maintenance/wheels/tires etc. Nothing was turn key....

Yeah fk that. Frankly I'd rather just pick up well maintained ML320 somewhere for far less.

[max225]

I attempted to find XJs and TJs in the 7000-10000 range. And it has been terrible, I even drove 2 TJs. They are not 4 figure cars... and frankly, they have a lot of problems due to sheer age. All of them needed suspension work, tons of delayed/deferred maintenance/wheels/tires etc. Nothing was turn key....

Yeah fk that. Frankly I'd rather just pick up well maintained ML320 somewhere for far less.

Right which is why I started looking at 4 runners/land cruisers etc. The hummer accidentally popped up in my search since it was on the first page... I did a bit of research... and it seems like a near-perfect vehicle for temporary ownership. I am not kidding myself into thinking I'll own something 5+ years down the line. That won't happen. I am looking for something to use temporarily and flip.

[Desertbreh]

Yeah fk that. Frankly I'd rather just pick up well maintained ML320 somewhere for far less.

Right which is why I started looking at 4 runners/land cruisers etc. The hummer accidentally popped up in my search since it was on the first page... I did a bit of research... and it seems like a near-perfect vehicle for temporary ownership. I am not kidding myself into thinking I'll own something 5+ years down the line. That won't happen. I am looking for something to use temporarily and flip.

Eh, you may like it. Same powertrain as my Brahhoe. Nothing exciting but it gets it done. I realize that for many on here owning a vehicle for more than 2 years is akin to contracting AIDS, but 3/4 of the vehicles in my garage are paid for, fully sorted, and there is no reason to other than hating money. Eventually I plan to plac the Tahoe for a JLU but that's going to take some convincing of the wifepiece.

[D Griff]

:poverty:

I attempted to find XJs and TJs in the 7000-10000 range. And it has been terrible, I even drove 2 TJs. They are not 4 figure cars... and frankly, they have a lot of problems due to sheer age. All of them needed suspension work, tons of delayed/deferred maintenance/wheels/tires etc. Nothing was turn key....

Yeah man, I've shopped "affordable" before and it's rough. A nice TJ is like $15-20K which is insane for a 20 year old ox cart. JKs are pretty high too, but it seems like there may be a sweet spot in the high 20s/low 30s for nice ones. I'd probably just go new or just skip Wranglers all together though.

[max225]

I attempted to find XJs and TJs in the 7000-10000 range. And it has been terrible, I even drove 2 TJs. They are not 4 figure cars... and frankly, they have a lot of problems due to sheer age. All of them needed suspension work, tons of delayed/deferred maintenance/wheels/tires etc. Nothing was turn key....

Yeah man, I've shopped "affordable" before and it's rough. A nice TJ is like $15-20K which is insane for a 20 year old ox cart. JKs are pretty high too, but it seems like there may be a sweet spot in the high 20s/low 30s for nice ones. I'd probably just go new or just skip Wranglers all together though.

Nice JKs used to be mid 30s but they are certainly mid 20/high 20s now. 26-29k gets you a sub 50k mile JKU Sport or Sahara. Rubicunts do command a premium. But overall that seems like an insane amount to pay for a toy. Yes things like rubicons/sports cars are toys to me as they serve a different purpose from basic transport.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

That picture comparison is crazy. It really looks like a decent size (didn't remember, never see them really). When do you return the XSE?

H3 is about the same size as an Xterra or 4Runner. It's not big at all.

Pretty ideal, actually.

[max225]

H3 is about the same size as an Xterra or 4Runner. It's not big at all.

Pretty ideal, actually.

no response from bro... but he did list phone # and I emailed....

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Pretty ideal, actually.

no response from bro... but he did list phone # and I emailed....

[Apex]

H3 is about the same size as an Xterra or 4Runner. It's not big at all.

Pretty ideal, actually.

Does the Alpha come with lockers?

[max225]

Pretty ideal, actually.

Does the Alpha come with lockers?

Rear locker.