Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

[dubshow]

im looking at pairing up some fox shox with a 2.5" lift

Check out the Mopar lift. It does just that.

yeah but there are some vendors slinging great deals on shox alone.

[dubshow]

Beats 55k eh?

Yea ... at worst it'll be worth 10k in a year... so it is a far better purchase fiscally speaking.

no way bruh.

It would be a solid $16-17k after you drive it some more.

[dubshow]

im looking at pairing up some fox shox with a 2.5" lift

Legit interested to know how those ride.

yeah I think its the best of both worlds. As long as you dont go full retard on 37" mudz, it should be ok.

[CorvetteWaxer]

Yea ... at worst it'll be worth 10k in a year... so it is a far better purchase fiscally speaking.

no way bruh.

It would be a solid $16-17k after you drive it some more.

Jeeponomics 101.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Check out the Mopar lift. It does just that.

yeah but there are some vendors slinging great deals on shox alone.

The rest of the suspension is just as important. Great shocks on a shitty lift will be disappointing.

[SAWCE]

im looking at pairing up some fox shox with a 2.5" lift

Check out the Mopar lift. It does just that.

That’s probably the route I’ll go.

[wap]

Rode in a buddy's 2004 Wrangler. Don't know what alphanumeric model that is

I only bring it up because he's got 208,000 miles on it. Original engine, original trans. No major issues.

[max225]

Rode in a buddy's 2004 Wrangler. Don't know what alphanumeric model that is

I only bring it up because he's got 208,000 miles on it. Original engine, original trans. No major issues.

TJ

And the engine was fixed for that year

[wap]

Rode in a buddy's 2004 Wrangler. Don't know what alphanumeric model that is

I only bring it up because he's got 208,000 miles on it. Original engine, original trans. No major issues.

TJ

And the engine was fixed for that year

Apparently the fix was a pretty damn good one.

[max225]

TJ

And the engine was fixed for that year

Apparently the fix was a pretty damn good one.

Well it is a framed vehicle with an engine that dates back to 1975 and 0 creature comforts, they’d really have to screw the pooch to make it unreliable

[wap]

Apparently the fix was a pretty damn good one.

Well it is a framed vehicle with an engine that dates back to 1975 and 0 creature comforts, they’d really have to screw the pooch to make it unreliable

Well, wasn't it unreliable before the fix you mentioned?

And it does have 1 creature comfort: It has a decently powerful AC.

[max225]

Well it is a framed vehicle with an engine that dates back to 1975 and 0 creature comforts, they’d really have to screw the pooch to make it unreliable

Well, wasn't it unreliable before the fix you mentioned?

And it does have 1 creature comfort: It has a decently powerful AC.

Yes the engines were garbage from 98-02

[wap]

Well, wasn't it unreliable before the fix you mentioned?

And it does have 1 creature comfort: It has a decently powerful AC.

Yes the engines were garbage from 98-02

But it was a framed vehicle with an engine that dates back to 1975 and 0 creature comforts during those years too, so why wasn't it reliable then?

[CorvetteWaxer]

I believe it was a casting change with a head.

Can't remember, but my friend i've worked with forever had a bad one and had to do a repair.

[wap]

I believe it was a casting change with a head.

Can't remember, but my friend i've worked with forever had a bad one and had to do a repair.

Well whatever they did it must've worked, judging by the sample size of 1 that is my buddy's 208,000 mile example.

[dubshow]

yeah but there are some vendors slinging great deals on shox alone.

The rest of the suspension is just as important. Great shocks on a shitty lift will be disappointing.

my dad did that lift. its great for the money.

[dubshow]

This one is probably what Id go with, but deep down I want dual reservoirs for maximum crawlage.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/mopar-suspe ... h7EALw_wcB

[Melon]

[dubshow]

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I believe it was a casting change with a head.

Can't remember, but my friend i've worked with forever had a bad one and had to do a repair.

There was a change in the casting supplier in 00. They discovered and fixed it in 02. So 00-02 can be problems.

The good news is it's easy to find out if a head has been replaced by looking down the oil cap. Many have been, so I would have no hesitation to buy one with the head replaced.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

This one is probably what Id go with, but deep down I want dual reservoirs for maximum crawlage.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/mopar-suspe ... h7EALw_wcB

You will never ever need dual reservoirs unless you go wheeling outside of LA.

That is a 5/7 lift kit, doe. I remember driving a Jeep with that when it came out. Quite impressive.

I would also seriously consider the AEV DualSport XT for a bit less:

https://secure.aev-conversions.com/shop ... ension-2-5

No fox shocks, but AEV designs some fantastic stuff. The progressive rate springs are a really nice touch.

[CorvetteWaxer]

So, I went out to the Jeep last night to go get gas for the wife. Start it up and had a CEL.

Came back inside and asked if she had noticed it... "Yeah, it's been on for about a week" she says in a quiet tone and kind of sheepishly...

Busted out the OBD2 dongle and read the code, p0456, EVAP System Small Leak.

Couple possible common fixes: gas cap, or more likely: there is a plastic hose for the EVAP system that Jeep routes right next to the battery and it often develops a small pin hole.

I still have 2 months of bumper to bumper warranty left, so I'm just going to use it while I debate buying the Jeep extended warranty. $2500 for a lifetime warranty with $100 deductible or $3200 for a lifetime with $0 deductible...

[max225]

$2500 is like a no brainer to never worry again.

Seems like a small spit in the bucket unless you’re selling it in 1-2 years

Also getting gas for the wife ?!

[max225]

I believe it was a casting change with a head.

Can't remember, but my friend i've worked with forever had a bad one and had to do a repair.

There was a change in the casting supplier in 00. They discovered and fixed it in 02. So 00-02 can be problems.

The good news is it's easy to find out if a head has been replaced by looking down the oil cap. Many have been, so I would have no hesitation to buy one with the head replaced.

I think it was actually 99. But the TJ used the older 4.0 While the xjs got the “newer” one.. it’s a shame really since 99-01 xjs are the best in terms of everything else and they have a fked up head.

[CorvetteWaxer]

$2500 is like a no brainer to never worry again.

Seems like a small spit in the bucket unless you’re selling it in 1-2 years

Also getting gas for the wife ?!

Trying to be nice. You know...

I actually use that time to drive it and make sure something isn't going on with it, since she clearly wouldn't notice something like a whine from the diffs or transmission if she can't remember to tell me about the CEL on the dash.