Cars you wanted, but never purchased

[D Griff]

My Subaru built Toyota (also from Japan) is flawless as well. It is quite a nice thing.

We can finally be gr86 bros after this summer, at earliest that is. Unless i find something else used with

Im kinda at crossroads of either going bronco or tacoma though, manual of course.

So I can't make up my mind

GR86 versus Bronco/Tacoma is more out there than Civic versus M3.

[max225]

I would caution a Tacoma … while far more utilitarian than say an 86, the engine is slow as balls and leaves you ing

[Desertbreh]

I would caution a Tacoma … while far more utilitarian than say an 86, the engine is slow as balls and leaves you ing

Get rid of it and get a Bronco. A thread with Vasily and his green visor beancounting the twenty three available Bronco trims and accessories and then trying to buy one would be serious content here.

[max225]

I would caution a Tacoma … while far more utilitarian than say an 86, the engine is slow as balls and leaves you ing

Get rid of it and get a Bronco. A thread with Vasily and his green visor beancounting the twenty three available Bronco trims and accessories and then trying to buy one would be serious content here.

I’m not interested in a bronco. Driven one and it was … mediocre to say the least.

4xe wrangler maybe a bit more interesting given that it has major and can be charged at home for most errands. Then again 392 is the way to really go. But it is literally 2x the price of a 4xe while having the same torque …

I’d rather take that 50k and buy an 86 or a mustang gt or whatever than just having a solo gilded Porta potty

[Desertbreh]

Get rid of it and get a Bronco. A thread with Vasily and his green visor beancounting the twenty three available Bronco trims and accessories and then trying to buy one would be serious content here.

I’m not interested in a bronco. Driven one and it was … mediocre to say the least.

4xe wrangler maybe a bit more interesting given that it has major and can be charged at home for most errands. Then again 392 is the way to really go. But it is literally 2x the price of a 4xe while having the same torque …

I’d rather take that 50k and buy an 86 or a mustang gt or whatever than just having a solo gilded Porta potty

How is the Bronco inferior to the gilded porta poddy?

[max225]

I’m not interested in a bronco. Driven one and it was … mediocre to say the least.

4xe wrangler maybe a bit more interesting given that it has major and can be charged at home for most errands. Then again 392 is the way to really go. But it is literally 2x the price of a 4xe while having the same torque …

I’d rather take that 50k and buy an 86 or a mustang gt or whatever than just having a solo gilded Porta potty

How is the Bronco inferior to the gilded porta poddy?

It doesn’t have a V8 or a chargeable powertrain. And they are still difficult to get. Yet every dealer here has 50+ wranglers in stock so just pick a color and trim

[MexicanYarisTK]

We can finally be gr86 bros after this summer, at earliest that is. Unless i find something else used with

Im kinda at crossroads of either going bronco or tacoma though, manual of course.

So I can't make up my mind

GR86 versus Bronco/Tacoma is more out there than Civic versus M3.

Thats cause my commute will drastically shorten from 50 mi round trip to 15 at best. Mostly composed of in DC, with 30 mph posted limit at best with cameras to some extent and shitty roads. We'll see

[Desertbreh]

How is the Bronco inferior to the gilded porta poddy?

It doesn’t have a V8 or a chargeable powertrain. And they are still difficult to get. Yet every dealer here has 50+ wranglers in stock so just pick a color and trim

Say no more. I was just interested in driving dynamics criticism/analysis. I still think the 392 Wrangler is an investment grade vehicle.

[max225]

It doesn’t have a V8 or a chargeable powertrain. And they are still difficult to get. Yet every dealer here has 50+ wranglers in stock so just pick a color and trim

Say no more. I was just interested in driving dynamics criticism/analysis. I still think the 392 Wrangler is an investment grade vehicle.

Honestly... A tacoma drives better than both. The amount of wind noise in a Bronco is fucking abysmal. Especially the soft top is going to cause tinnitus past 40mph. It was horrible compared to a Jeep. The interior is not noticeably nicer either. Wrangler is really decent. I do think a bronco is looking "fresher" than a wrangler... but I am now seeing them 10x a day minimum also.

Bronco does have nicer steering than the Wrangler, and I think it has pretty decent braking also. Other than that they all drive like a fucking RV

[D Griff]

Say no more. I was just interested in driving dynamics criticism/analysis. I still think the 392 Wrangler is an investment grade vehicle.

Honestly... A tacoma drives better than both. The amount of wind noise in a Bronco is fucking abysmal. Especially the soft top is going to cause tinnitus past 40mph. It was horrible compared to a Jeep. The interior is not noticeably nicer either. Wrangler is really decent. I do think a bronco is looking "fresher" than a wrangler... but I am now seeing them 10x a day minimum also.

Bronco does have nicer steering than the Wrangler, and I think it has pretty decent braking also. Other than that they all drive like a fucking RV

Can confirm these are both awful in a Both of the above and a GR86 all seem pretty horrendous for DC commuting although at least the 86 is small? Traffic up there blows ass, I would probably just keep the Accord unless he plans to start track driving or off roading or something.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Honestly... A tacoma drives better than both. The amount of wind noise in a Bronco is fucking abysmal. Especially the soft top is going to cause tinnitus past 40mph. It was horrible compared to a Jeep. The interior is not noticeably nicer either. Wrangler is really decent. I do think a bronco is looking "fresher" than a wrangler... but I am now seeing them 10x a day minimum also.

Bronco does have nicer steering than the Wrangler, and I think it has pretty decent braking also. Other than that they all drive like a fucking RV

Can confirm these are both awful in a Both of the above and a GR86 all seem pretty horrendous for DC commuting although at least the 86 is small? Traffic up there blows ass, I would probably just keep the Accord unless he plans to start track driving or off roading or something.

Realistically I'd probably end up in a gr86 or similar. I have dealt with my mk6 in dc, but at the time I did not work there nor went there regularly. Dmv traffic on the other hand...

Tacoma or any offroad vehicles i mentioned is the thought of an idea where i may jump on that off the grid, off road type of lifestyle where my current work setting is not suitable atleast to a regular use and I feel like getting a vehicle as such just for probably 6 times a year seems not ideal to me. I recently rented a rubicunt in my recent colorado trip and really liked the way it drives (almost rented a broncohoe with manual but off turo it was too expensive) but obviously traffic is nothing like in the dmv and people seem to know how to drive much better, so can't imagine crawling while getting passed by bird scooters.

Accord is now excellent for my current driving lifestyle, long commute from the boonies aka fairfax/Centreville into dc, roadtrips, quick enough gets 87 donkey piss, drives fairly solid but can be a bit boring. I do intend to within a 2 year span when i bought it. The plan is to move to Silver Spring MD (literally a border next to north dc) end of this summer, which and I agreed upon, due to no longer having a car (Fiesta is now with her parents for her dads project), it is one metro stop from her school and her barre studio (which she got awarded on). Only 6 miles and a straight shot down on 16th street to get to my hotel, with free parking unless we have high volume of cars for guests staying with us, with recent weekends that is.

Once I get all settled in with the move with furniture etc, then I can start looking to

[MexicanYarisTK]

Also i had couple recent rants with the accord. Probably has to do with the quality control after vid, which after all i ordered the car. Passenger window shimmied again and when i was rolling the driver window down the metal tip of the switch randomly broke. It kinda me

Plus a month after i purchased the car, I realized that my car was an easy target for wheel theft in the dmv, which is why i began to notice my wheels happen to be on older crv's and civics.

[D Griff]

Can confirm these are both awful in a Both of the above and a GR86 all seem pretty horrendous for DC commuting although at least the 86 is small? Traffic up there blows ass, I would probably just keep the Accord unless he plans to start track driving or off roading or something.

Realistically I'd probably end up in a gr86 or similar. I have dealt with my mk6 in dc, but at the time I did not work there nor went there regularly. Dmv traffic on the other hand...

Tacoma or any offroad vehicles i mentioned is the thought of an idea where i may jump on that off the grid, off road type of lifestyle where my current work setting is not suitable atleast to a regular use and I feel like getting a vehicle as such just for probably 6 times a year seems not ideal to me. I recently rented a rubicunt in my recent colorado trip and really liked the way it drives (almost rented a broncohoe with manual but off turo it was too expensive) but obviously traffic is nothing like in the dmv and people seem to know how to drive much better, so can't imagine crawling while getting passed by bird scooters.

Accord is now excellent for my current driving lifestyle, long commute from the boonies aka fairfax/Centreville into dc, roadtrips, quick enough gets 87 donkey piss, drives fairly solid but can be a bit boring. I do intend to within a 2 year span when i bought it. The plan is to move to Silver Spring MD (literally a border next to north dc) end of this summer, which and I agreed upon, due to no longer having a car (Fiesta is now with her parents for her dads project), it is one metro stop from her school and her barre studio (which she got awarded on). Only 6 miles and a straight shot down on 16th street to get to my hotel, with free parking unless we have high volume of cars for guests staying with us, with recent weekends that is.

Once I get all settled in with the move with furniture etc, then I can start looking to

Silver Spring is nice

Interesting that you liked the way a Rubicunt drives... I find the Wrongler drive is quite They are great fun in their element though and pretty nice vehicles other than the steering on the highway.

I do agree to not buy a vehicle for something you might do six times a year, particularly when it's more of a dream/idea than something you already do.

I don't mind a manual in traffic myself, but the 86 is also sort of loud and rough riding. I love the car and don't mind that, but depending on uses it's certainly worth considering, particularly if doesn't own a car, she may be by an 86 if it's your trip vehicle. I will say lowering the tire pressure a few PSI from the recommended made my wife warm up to it quite a bit, the ride was quite improved.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Realistically I'd probably end up in a gr86 or similar. I have dealt with my mk6 in dc, but at the time I did not work there nor went there regularly. Dmv traffic on the other hand...

Tacoma or any offroad vehicles i mentioned is the thought of an idea where i may jump on that off the grid, off road type of lifestyle where my current work setting is not suitable atleast to a regular use and I feel like getting a vehicle as such just for probably 6 times a year seems not ideal to me. I recently rented a rubicunt in my recent colorado trip and really liked the way it drives (almost rented a broncohoe with manual but off turo it was too expensive) but obviously traffic is nothing like in the dmv and people seem to know how to drive much better, so can't imagine crawling while getting passed by bird scooters.

Accord is now excellent for my current driving lifestyle, long commute from the boonies aka fairfax/Centreville into dc, roadtrips, quick enough gets 87 donkey piss, drives fairly solid but can be a bit boring. I do intend to within a 2 year span when i bought it. The plan is to move to Silver Spring MD (literally a border next to north dc) end of this summer, which and I agreed upon, due to no longer having a car (Fiesta is now with her parents for her dads project), it is one metro stop from her school and her barre studio (which she got awarded on). Only 6 miles and a straight shot down on 16th street to get to my hotel, with free parking unless we have high volume of cars for guests staying with us, with recent weekends that is.

Once I get all settled in with the move with furniture etc, then I can start looking to

Silver Spring is nice

Interesting that you liked the way a Rubicunt drives... I find the Wrongler drive is quite They are great fun in their element though and pretty nice vehicles other than the steering on the highway.

I do agree to not buy a vehicle for something you might do six times a year, particularly when it's more of a dream/idea than something you already do.

I don't mind a manual in traffic myself, but the 86 is also sort of loud and rough riding. I love the car and don't mind that, but depending on uses it's certainly worth considering, particularly if doesn't own a car, she may be by an 86 if it's your trip vehicle. I will say lowering the tire pressure a few PSI from the recommended made my wife warm up to it quite a bit, the ride was quite improved.

Well I just did a costco run with and I kinda have some thoughts. Also since I'm skipping on Turkey this year for the summer, I decided to spoil myself with a couple beach goodies, including a yeti cooler and I was thinking whether it may fit in it. Also Annie is a sassy latina, she'd definitely not be happy with the ride quality. The accord isn't exactly that absorbent either with the 19's until today I hit a bunch of imperfections which seemed to handle well with a non teeth shatteringly way and I remember my yaris it would feel not so good. also found the camaro to be uncomfortable as well with the ride so theres that.

As far as liking the wrangler, obviously for its own right. It didn't feel that boaty to me and I rented a jku sport in mexico, so jku sport 5 speed auto 3.6 vs jlu rubicunt with larger tires + 8 speed with 3.6 felt different. Jku felt too steery on the highway, jlu I did notice it but it wasn't as bad and felt more on center with a little wiggle room. Granted corners are sketch and braking is better than I was expecting. White interior is not what I would call cramped, I felt like the center console robbed a little foot space. I also have found the brake pedal in more of where I would expect the space betweeb clutch and brake. It was a slight awkward position. Also wind noise due to the shape.

I did had some quick what if temptations of getting a jlu and switch to metal bumpers in dc, cause at times it is like a warzone when it comes to driving. People pull out without looking at times intentionally stop, which brings me the

[D Griff]

Silver Spring is nice

Interesting that you liked the way a Rubicunt drives... I find the Wrongler drive is quite They are great fun in their element though and pretty nice vehicles other than the steering on the highway.

I do agree to not buy a vehicle for something you might do six times a year, particularly when it's more of a dream/idea than something you already do.

I don't mind a manual in traffic myself, but the 86 is also sort of loud and rough riding. I love the car and don't mind that, but depending on uses it's certainly worth considering, particularly if doesn't own a car, she may be by an 86 if it's your trip vehicle. I will say lowering the tire pressure a few PSI from the recommended made my wife warm up to it quite a bit, the ride was quite improved.

Well I just did a costco run with and I kinda have some thoughts. Also since I'm skipping on Turkey this year for the summer, I decided to spoil myself with a couple beach goodies, including a yeti cooler and I was thinking whether it may fit in it. Also Annie is a sassy latina, she'd definitely not be happy with the ride quality. The accord isn't exactly that absorbent either with the 19's until today I hit a bunch of imperfections which seemed to handle well with a non teeth shatteringly way and I remember my yaris it would feel not so good. also found the camaro to be uncomfortable as well with the ride so theres that.

As far as liking the wrangler, obviously for its own right. It didn't feel that boaty to me and I rented a jku sport in mexico, so jku sport 5 speed auto 3.6 vs jlu rubicunt with larger tires + 8 speed with 3.6 felt different. Jku felt too steery on the highway, jlu I did notice it but it wasn't as bad and felt more on center with a little wiggle room. Granted corners are sketch and braking is better than I was expecting. White interior is not what I would call cramped, I felt like the center console robbed a little foot space. I also have found the brake pedal in more of where I would expect the space betweeb clutch and brake. It was a slight awkward position. Also wind noise due to the shape.

I did had some quick what if temptations of getting a jlu and switch to metal bumpers in dc, cause at times it is like a warzone when it comes to driving. People pull out without looking at times intentionally stop, which brings me the

If an Accord doesn't ride well I can assure you the 86 is heinous

The makes for a pretty good city car - can go over any shit roads , big tire protects rear bumper, tight turning radius, and a fairly small footprint. It's fun to tool around a city in, where it blows is long highway driving. It is way more exhausting to just keep it centered in the lane than any other car I've driven aside from the Bang Bus.

I enjoy our Beep Beep and I'm glad my wife likes it, but if it were mine, it would've been quite some time ago due to the highway suckage - steering, noise, braking.

[max225]

Well I just did a costco run with and I kinda have some thoughts. Also since I'm skipping on Turkey this year for the summer, I decided to spoil myself with a couple beach goodies, including a yeti cooler and I was thinking whether it may fit in it. Also Annie is a sassy latina, she'd definitely not be happy with the ride quality. The accord isn't exactly that absorbent either with the 19's until today I hit a bunch of imperfections which seemed to handle well with a non teeth shatteringly way and I remember my yaris it would feel not so good. also found the camaro to be uncomfortable as well with the ride so theres that.

As far as liking the wrangler, obviously for its own right. It didn't feel that boaty to me and I rented a jku sport in mexico, so jku sport 5 speed auto 3.6 vs jlu rubicunt with larger tires + 8 speed with 3.6 felt different. Jku felt too steery on the highway, jlu I did notice it but it wasn't as bad and felt more on center with a little wiggle room. Granted corners are sketch and braking is better than I was expecting. White interior is not what I would call cramped, I felt like the center console robbed a little foot space. I also have found the brake pedal in more of where I would expect the space betweeb clutch and brake. It was a slight awkward position. Also wind noise due to the shape.

I did had some quick what if temptations of getting a jlu and switch to metal bumpers in dc, cause at times it is like a warzone when it comes to driving. People pull out without looking at times intentionally stop, which brings me the

If an Accord doesn't ride well I can assure you the 86 is heinous

The makes for a pretty good city car - can go over any shit roads , big tire protects rear bumper, tight turning radius, and a fairly small footprint. It's fun to tool around a city in, where it blows is long highway driving. It is way more exhausting to just keep it centered in the lane than any other car I've driven aside from the Bang Bus.

I enjoy our Beep Beep and I'm glad my wife likes it, but if it were mine, it would've been quite some time ago due to the highway suckage - steering, noise, braking.

Yea ... that sounds spot on. It is a terrible long trip vehicle but a pretty decent mobile for a daily. Whatever the jeep loses in MPG it gains in relatively cheap maintenance/upkeep/depreciation costs also.

A weird DD gripe of mine is the swing gate..... it can gate kind of annoying if you're quickly trying to deal with things... you kind of always have to step away from it... which you sometimes can't if someone is parked behind you... and then you also have to swing the glass open... a two part process. A first world "problem" but say a normal trunk takes 2 seconds to operate this takes... 15-30... in seedy or busy areas it gets really frustrating.

[D Griff]

If an Accord doesn't ride well I can assure you the 86 is heinous

The makes for a pretty good city car - can go over any shit roads , big tire protects rear bumper, tight turning radius, and a fairly small footprint. It's fun to tool around a city in, where it blows is long highway driving. It is way more exhausting to just keep it centered in the lane than any other car I've driven aside from the Bang Bus.

I enjoy our Beep Beep and I'm glad my wife likes it, but if it were mine, it would've been quite some time ago due to the highway suckage - steering, noise, braking.

Yea ... that sounds spot on. It is a terrible long trip vehicle but a pretty decent mobile for a daily. Whatever the jeep loses in MPG it gains in relatively cheap maintenance/upkeep/depreciation costs also.

A weird DD gripe of mine is the swing gate..... it can gate kind of annoying if you're quickly trying to deal with things... you kind of always have to step away from it... which you sometimes can't if someone is parked behind you... and then you also have to swing the glass open... a two part process. A first world "problem" but say a normal trunk takes 2 seconds to operate this takes... 15-30... in seedy or busy areas it gets really frustrating.

Interesting, I've never really thought about the swing gate one way or another, although with a bike rack on it's very annoying, a tailgate would be the same. I love on a coupe/sedan that I can open the trunk with a bike in tow. The soft top rear window is kind of annoying to deal with in loading/unloading, but I'd never buy a hardtop Wrangler personally unless I had a hoist in my garage to remove the hard top easily. I feel the convertible aspect is a key element to the car.

Agreed on upkeep costs, our Wrongler has been insanely cheap to own for 40K miles - $5K of depreciation which includes taxes/fees, $150 in maintenance, and gas. Insurance is quite cheap as well, and FE has been pretty acceptable, averaging around 21 for the car's life.

[Desertbreh]

If an Accord doesn't ride well I can assure you the 86 is heinous

The makes for a pretty good city car - can go over any shit roads , big tire protects rear bumper, tight turning radius, and a fairly small footprint. It's fun to tool around a city in, where it blows is long highway driving. It is way more exhausting to just keep it centered in the lane than any other car I've driven aside from the Bang Bus.

I enjoy our Beep Beep and I'm glad my wife likes it, but if it were mine, it would've been quite some time ago due to the highway suckage - steering, noise, braking.

Yea ... that sounds spot on. It is a terrible long trip vehicle but a pretty decent mobile for a daily. Whatever the jeep loses in MPG it gains in relatively cheap maintenance/upkeep/depreciation costs also.

A weird DD gripe of mine is the swing gate..... it can gate kind of annoying if you're quickly trying to deal with things... you kind of always have to step away from it... which you sometimes can't if someone is parked behind you... and then you also have to swing the glass open... a two part process. A first world "problem" but say a normal trunk takes 2 seconds to operate this takes... 15-30... in seedy or busy areas it gets really frustrating.

I always have to stop and "oh yeah" whenever I rent one.