OT 17: WELCOME TO THE CORONADOME!
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I don’t understand the dishes accumulating in the sink. We wash them immediately after every meal. At worst, there’s a couple wine glasses in the sink that we put there right before we went to bed..and they get washed first thing in the morning
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Fuck, that sucks, and yeah i feel a constant fear too. Things could get worse still but you can bet that things are also going to get better. The stock market is already pricing in a recovery, fingers crossed.
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Eh, it is what it is - if people were really suffering they wouldn't have cash to blow on a at what, $100+ an hour?[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:45 pmYes people suffering from mental health disorders certainly don't need access to high quality care.
It makes sense on your end. With the rich getting richer and everyone else going broke, the only way to really succeed in selling any kind of product or service is to move upmarket. Sell GT3's, not Mirages. You're not a charity.
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It takes less time and effort to clean (some of) them if they soak first.
I don't even know what to do at work anymore... everyone I call it's the same stories "my business is going under" or "I have no projects to buy your parts for" or "I laid off all my people last week"... Even without commission though, I am still getting paid pretty good money to do very little butJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:41 pmWelcome to my hell.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:59 am
I like shit to be nice where possible. No reason to delay it, or be bitter about the fact that I did it. She certainly does things, just isn't quite as prone to take immediate initiative. In the current way of the world, her job is also significantly more demanding and time consuming. My job is just now.
I walk into the kitchen to a pile of dishes every single time. And silverware soaking in bowls and such. Brand new silverware. That will end up pitting and rusting if it sits in shit.
Wife is preggers tho. Don't wake the demon. Better to just take it and and just do dishes non fucking stop every day.
Also my job is pointless and she's busy as hell all day makes me feel like a fucking loooooooser.
I do 99% of all dishes in my Even when the dishwasher is empty, she will just set things in the sink. But it's just not worth getting soap dispenser over, I don't mind dishes.
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Why are the dishwashers not washing the dishes.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:59 pmI don't even know what to do at work anymore... everyone I call it's the same stories "my business is going under" or "I have no projects to buy your parts for" or "I laid off all my people last week"... Even without commission though, I am still getting paid pretty good money to do very little butJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:41 pm
Welcome to my hell.
I walk into the kitchen to a pile of dishes every single time. And silverware soaking in bowls and such. Brand new silverware. That will end up pitting and rusting if it sits in shit.
Wife is preggers tho. Don't wake the demon. Better to just take it and and just do dishes non fucking stop every day.
Also my job is pointless and she's busy as hell all day makes me feel like a fucking loooooooser.
I do 99% of all dishes in my Even when the dishwasher is empty, she will just set things in the sink. But it's just not worth getting soap dispenser over, I don't mind dishes.
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I basically pre-wash everything and use the machine only for finishing.max225 wrote:Why are the dishwashers not washing the dishes.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:59 pm I don't even know what to do at work anymore... everyone I call it's the same stories "my business is going under" or "I have no projects to buy your parts for" or "I laid off all my people last week"... Even without commission though, I am still getting paid pretty good money to do very little but
I do 99% of all dishes in my Even when the dishwasher is empty, she will just set things in the sink. But it's just not worth getting soap dispenser over, I don't mind dishes.
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I had too due to being in the middle of a rollover.
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I don't know what Dr. Mrs. [user not found]'s exact fees are, but as someone who frequented a for a hot minute and had discussions with her about the ridiculous of healthcare, it can sometimes be more cost effective to pay your therapist cash versus going through your insurance.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:57 pmEh, it is what it is - if people were really suffering they wouldn't have cash to blow on a at what, $100+ an hour?[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:45 pm
Yes people suffering from mental health disorders certainly don't need access to high quality care.
It makes sense on your end. With the rich getting richer and everyone else going broke, the only way to really succeed in selling any kind of product or service is to move upmarket. Sell GT3's, not Mirages. You're not a charity.
Also, for any number of reasons, people may want to avoid billing their insurance for therapy/psychiatric services.
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Troy is implying, and is correct, getting treatment does.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 pmThis is pretty reductionist and implies the only problem people can have are financial ones. Mental illness doesn't care about your pocket book.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:57 pm
Eh, it is what it is - if people were really suffering they wouldn't have cash to blow on a at what, $100+ an hour?
It makes sense on your end. With the rich getting richer and everyone else going broke, the only way to really succeed in selling any kind of product or service is to move upmarket. Sell GT3's, not Mirages. You're not a charity.
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Otherwise, stuff doesn't come out completely clean. Kind of really, but the dishwasher is a convenient place to stack things to dry rather than the counter.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:06 pmI basically pre-wash everything and use the machine only for finishing.max225 wrote:
Why are the dishwashers not washing the dishes.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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More like those without financial problems are less likely to have serious mental problems.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 pmThis is pretty reductionist and implies the only problem people can have are financial ones. Mental illness doesn't care about your pocket book.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:57 pm
Eh, it is what it is - if people were really suffering they wouldn't have cash to blow on a at what, $100+ an hour?
It makes sense on your end. With the rich getting richer and everyone else going broke, the only way to really succeed in selling any kind of product or service is to move upmarket. Sell GT3's, not Mirages. You're not a charity.
When crippling mental issues keep you from getting out of bed, for example, you don't get a job and you have no money to pay
When crippling issues keep you from sleeping and kill your job performance, you don't keep a job and have no money to pay
Hell I can't think of a "serious" mental problem that's compatible with getting and keeping a good job. Perhaps that's lack of imagination on my part?
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My wife was going to see a therapist, but decided not to after getting the bill. I told her it doesn't matter and that her mental health is worth more than money, but she doesn't see it that way. I can't force her to go, so whatever.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:22 pmTroy is implying, and is correct, getting treatment does.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 pm
This is pretty reductionist and implies the only problem people can have are financial ones. Mental illness doesn't care about your pocket book.
This is the problem with the system. Mental health IS really important, but the way most insurance handles it, it's not. We can afford it and the wife chooses not to...people who can't afford it never will.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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My dishwasher is a useless piece of machinery generally. I pre wash everything before it goes in there. Kind of defeats the point.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:25 pmOtherwise, stuff doesn't come out completely clean. Kind of really, but the dishwasher is a convenient place to stack things to dry rather than the counter.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:06 pm I basically pre-wash everything and use the machine only for finishing.
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So help me out.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:27 pmNot necessarily true. Having money doesn't mean you are working for it at the moment (or ever had).troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:25 pm
More like those without financial problems are less likely to have serious mental problems.
All this is true but these people are not the population my wife sees EVER even when she accepts insurance.When crippling mental issues keep you from getting out of bed, for example, you don't get a job and you have no money to pay
When crippling issues keep you from sleeping and kill your job performance, you don't keep a job and have no money to pay
Hell I can't think of a "serious" mental problem that's compatible with getting and keeping a good job. Perhaps that's lack of imagination on my part?
What kind of "serious" problems do people with tons of extra cash to blow have? It's hard to imagine since the only problems I have would be solved almost instantly by having more money.
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It’s not usually a huge issue to me either. Because I have nothing to do anyway. And with her being preggers I’m happy to take some of the house bs load off her.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:59 pmI don't even know what to do at work anymore... everyone I call it's the same stories "my business is going under" or "I have no projects to buy your parts for" or "I laid off all my people last week"... Even without commission though, I am still getting paid pretty good money to do very little butJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:41 pm
Welcome to my hell.
I walk into the kitchen to a pile of dishes every single time. And silverware soaking in bowls and such. Brand new silverware. That will end up pitting and rusting if it sits in shit.
Wife is preggers tho. Don't wake the demon. Better to just take it and and just do dishes non fucking stop every day.
Also my job is pointless and she's busy as hell all day makes me feel like a fucking loooooooser.
I do 99% of all dishes in my Even when the dishwasher is empty, she will just set things in the sink. But it's just not worth getting soap dispenser over, I don't mind dishes.
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Wait she's a PT?[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:34 pmI mean... She isn't dealing with people's problems she is dealing with illness. Chronic illness. Money doesn't magically repair your busted knee, but it does buy you a surgeon to repair it and a physical therapist to teach you the skills to rebuild ittroyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:31 pm
So help me out.
What kind of "serious" problems do people with tons of extra cash to blow have? It's hard to imagine since the only problems I have would be solved almost instantly by having more money.
I thought she was in some kind of psychiatry/psychology type field. Dunno where I got that idea.
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Sigh, more word games... Fine, we will use your words. Illness is a fucking problem though, for the record.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:37 pmShe's a psychologist. That isn't dealing with people's problems. It's dealing with mental illness.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:35 pm
Wait she's a PT?
I thought she was in some kind of psychiatry/psychology type field. Dunno where I got that idea.
What kind of serious mental illness is so bad that it requires treatment yet somehow leaves one fully capable of getting and keeping a good job?
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I mean, sure, there's times soaking is necessary, but that's like maybe 1 or 2 cooking vessels and certainly not a common situation (at least in our house). Plates, glasses, silverware get washed or rinsed and put in the dishwasher.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:59 pmIt takes less time and effort to clean (some of) them if they soak first.
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I'll play.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:39 pmSigh, more word games... Fine, we will use your words. Illness is a fucking problem though, for the record.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:37 pm
She's a psychologist. That isn't dealing with people's problems. It's dealing with mental illness.
What kind of serious mental illness is so bad that it requires treatment yet somehow leaves one fully capable of getting and keeping a good job?
I used to self-sabatoge myself as "not being good enough" for anything. Viewing myself as a failure, along with depression and serious thoughts of suicide put me on a dark path. I wouldn't apply to jobs because I didn't see a point, and I typically performed rather mediocre at what I did have because I didn't see myself going anywhere or have the potential to.
That was 100% mental. My therapist managed to help me work through all of that and it put me on a path to success. My current life (that I'm really happy with) is owed almost entirely to the year I spent seeing my therapist. I never would have been able to get over my shit on my own...the same way I couldn't recover from a physical injury without a physical therapist. That's bendy's point.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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So not actually that serious, eh? It could become serious, sure, but then they'd get fired and not be able to pay and therefore not need an expert anymore.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:43 pmThere are many but her specific areas of practice are:troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:39 pm
Sigh, more word games... Fine, we will use your words. Illness is a fucking problem though, for the record.
What kind of serious mental illness is so bad that it requires treatment yet somehow leaves one fully capable of getting and keeping a good job?
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She generally doesn't deal with super mentally ill people.
She also only sees most people for a limited number of sessions (based on the type of therapy she offers) so it can often be less expensive over time with better results than someone less trained than she is.
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baking soda + boiling water[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:44 pmif you think it needs to be soaked it probably just needs barkeepers friend.
....the time my wife scorched the fuck out of some tomato sauce
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I was talking about the human dishwasher ...troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:06 pmI basically pre-wash everything and use the machine only for finishing.max225 wrote:
Why are the dishwashers not washing the dishes.
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Waiting is easier and faster, per time actually spent working on it, than scrubbing. IDGAF about wasting water or having stuff in the sink that's what it is made to do.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:44 pmif you think it needs to be soaked it probably just needs barkeepers friend.