Car Talk 2: Un-American Motor Company.

[Apex]

The DFDmoji library is truly epic.

Gracias Senor Trollistrator/Creator of all that is 'moji.

[troyguitar]

What bottom end? The Renesis just spins!

Obviously the keys are to use good parts and tune it conservatively. Without a engine+trans build and clutch, the limits are indeed "low" - like 250-300 whp in an RX8 for example and without a massive amount of low end torque like current OEM turbo cars have. Beats the hell out of the stock ~170

There's a cool kit which keeps the turbro down low and central in the chassis so you can keep the weight balance closer to stock. Can't see it when you pop the hood at Hooters though, so maybe it sucks.

I honestly know nothing about rotary engines, but it seems like depending on the power, you could run into issues with accelerated apex seal wear and maybe rotor durability (if that's a thing)?

But 250-300 whp isn't crazy. Would probably be 5/7.

At the same time, it appears that the base 07-08 Cayman with a few grand in NA bolt-ons can get around 250 or so whp at the same weight. That's pretty since those are finally getting to be under $20k. Figure about $25k for one with decent power and suspension. Same price as a

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I honestly know nothing about rotary engines, but it seems like depending on the power, you could run into issues with accelerated apex seal wear and maybe rotor durability (if that's a thing)?

But 250-300 whp isn't crazy. Would probably be 5/7.

At the same time, it appears that the base 07-08 Cayman with a few grand in NA bolt-ons can get around 250 or so whp at the same weight. That's pretty since those are finally getting to be under $20k. Figure about $25k for one with decent power and suspension. Same price as a

Unfortunately where I live, in the land of straight roads power is king.

[troyguitar]

At the same time, it appears that the base 07-08 Cayman with a few grand in NA bolt-ons can get around 250 or so whp at the same weight. That's pretty since those are finally getting to be under $20k. Figure about $25k for one with decent power and suspension. Same price as a

Unfortunately where I live, in the land of straight roads power is king.

Badge is king.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Unfortunately where I live, in the land of straight roads power is king.

Badge is king.

Just in California.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Just in California.

Maxworld.

Especially compared to Detroit. My might as well be a lambo.

[Desertbreh]

Still why someone would spend so much on an Ellis RX-7 swap when you could buy a that looks the same and does the same things for way less.

Cool build,

For the better interior, seats, and build quality?

Also, although there are strong styling similarities between the C5 and RX7, the RX7 is a way better looking car imho.

[troyguitar]

Maxworld.

Especially compared to Detroit. My might as well be a lambo.

In NC maybe I'll be able to get away with a Poorsche without all of the "must be nice" shit that I got with the here... though the extra housing costs will make it prohibitively expensive for the foreseeable future.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

For the better interior, seats, and build quality?

Also, although there are strong styling similarities between the C5 and RX7, the RX7 is a way better looking car imho.

I'll concede that it's better looking, but to go as far as WAY better,

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Especially compared to Detroit. My might as well be a lambo.

In NC maybe I'll be able to get away with a Poorsche without all of the "must be nice" shit that I got with the here... though the extra housing costs will make it prohibitively expensive for the foreseeable future.

The Dorito sounds like your perfect car,

[wap]

https://www.caranddriver.com/comparison ... ate=042518

[Davestr]

In case you wonder how the new X2 badge whore CUV drives etc - https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-bmw-x2-ac ... 1825512047

[Davestr]

Fode Fiesta 2 door van - https://jalopnik.com/the-u-s-might-lose ... 1825526790

[Davestr]

When did happen?

Just snuck it in there while you weren't looking.

[Davestr]

Audi recall...ouch - testing much?

https://jalopnik.com/audi-is-recalling- ... 1825532736

[ChrisoftheNorth]

In case you wonder how the new X2 badge whore CUV drives etc - https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-bmw-x2-ac ... 1825512047

It should be the most fun to drive of any in that segment. Sounds like it's kind of there.

Also, other than MOAR BADGES what makes the X2 different from the X1 other than styling?

[wap]

Gracias Senor Trollistrator/Creator of all that is 'moji.

our 'mojis

[wap]

Just in California.

Maxworld.

R.I.P.

[wap]

For the better interior, seats, and build quality?

Also, although there are strong styling similarities between the C5 and RX7, the RX7 is a way better looking car imho.

Didn't want to go there on this site, but I don't disagree.

[wap]

Also, although there are strong styling similarities between the C5 and RX7, the RX7 is a way better looking car imho.

I'll concede that it's better looking, but to go as far as WAY better,

In other words,

[troyguitar]

In NC maybe I'll be able to get away with a Poorsche without all of the "must be nice" shit that I got with the here... though the extra housing costs will make it prohibitively expensive for the foreseeable future.

The Dorito sounds like your perfect car,

Eh, I have always wanted an MR hatchback that looks cool and sounds cool with ~300 hp NA engine, ~3000 lbs and compact dimensions, etc. Essentially a Cayman S. It's been the "realistic dream car" since they came out.

RX8 is perfect for the price, any upgrade costs at least double. I still want a Cayman.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

The Dorito sounds like your perfect car,

Eh, I have always wanted an MR hatchback that looks cool and sounds cool with ~300 hp NA engine, ~3000 lbs and compact dimensions, etc. Essentially a Cayman S. It's been the "realistic dream car" since they came out.

RX8 is perfect for the price, any upgrade costs at least double. I still want a Cayman.

Caymans are indeed fantastic.

[Davestr]

In case you wonder how the new X2 badge whore CUV drives etc - https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-bmw-x2-ac ... 1825512047

It should be the most fun to drive of any in that segment. Sounds like it's kind of there.

Also, other than MOAR BADGES what makes the X2 different from the X1 other than styling?

I will test this thing soon. My dealer is happy to toss me the keys next time the M2 goes in for a routine service. From what I read and see the X2 is lower and shorter than the X1 and is more 'dynamic'. I hope someone does them a head to head test. Bloody expensive Golf-R it seems, touch more room and the BMW name/badge etc. Im not a big CUV fan but I am curious about this particular one as far as how it drives. The rumor of a 6cyl one is interesting.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

It should be the most fun to drive of any in that segment. Sounds like it's kind of there.

Also, other than MOAR BADGES what makes the X2 different from the X1 other than styling?

I will test this thing soon. My dealer is happy to toss me the keys next time the M2 goes in for a routine service. From what I read and see the X2 is lower and shorter than the X1 and is more 'dynamic'. I hope someone does them a head to head test. Bloody expensive Golf-R it seems, touch more room and the BMW name/badge etc. Im not a big CUV fan but I am curious about this particular one as far as how it drives. The rumor of a 6cyl one is interesting.

V6?

[Davestr]

V6?

BMW doesn't do V6s, and BMW also won't fit an inline 6 in their FWD-based architecture.

I was going to post this as well. A 6 does not make sense in a configuration sense. Rumor be rumorin.......

A more powerful 4cyl makes more sense or hybrid.

I do like the gold paint on the Jalop test rig.