Car Talk 2: Un-American Motor Company.
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pm
What's moms dream car?
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Considering your financial situation keeping the gti seems wise. And it is a great car.razr390 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 pm Lease is almost up in a few months. Already at 5,xxx miles over the cap. Dad is the registered owner/lease holder and he's traveling during the months that the turn-in is due. So, for sake of proactivity we are already exploring other options, but for the most part they are as follows:
1. Keep the car
- The car would be financed based on residual value according to lease/purchase agreement (which is around $13,xxx IIRC).
- The car has had NO major issues even outside of the warranty
- The car is OUT OF WARRANTY
- The car has 65,xxx miles
2. Upgrade through VW into a new Golf/GTI/etc
- VW Credit relationship is good, and they will offer a nice rate/deal on a new car
- Helps soften the mileage overage fee blow, and eliminates early lease termination fees
- New car
- 2018 Model Year VW's get 6 year/72,000 mile warranty
- Carefree motoring for SIX YEARS.
3. Return GTI, take over 2017 Passat R-Line lease from my mom, and let her get her dream car.
- R-Line is a sweet looking, reliable car
- Comfortable and payment is lower than GTI's.
- Urano grey, LED lighting package on headlights and taillights
- Kind of dull to drive, but a car is a car.
4. Get a Charger (Daytona 5.7L preferred, but I'll take any)
- New/CPO/Used TBD depending on deals
5. Get a beater car for a few years, save up some and go from there.
- If I keep the GTI, payments would effectively be $17x-$2xx/month as a lease-to-own (one option)
- Get a used car
- Etc.
6. New appliance level car to beat the shit out of
- Maybe a GM product with Detroit
I am leaning pretty heavy on keeping the GTI for now, since I drove it from new, maintenance was done every 10k miles (even 8.5-9k) and it has no real known issues to it. Could use a detail, but otherwise perfect. Monthly would effectively lower by almost 1/2.
I did a carboner cleaning around 45k or so when they replaced my intake manifoldDetroit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:06 am Aren't there expensive issues with GTIs as they get up in age? Carbon build-up, etc? It's worth looking into so you know what you're getting into. When you're poor and starting out, the last thing you need is a sudden multi $k bill to fix your car.
Also, $13k seems to be too much for the car. Depends on how much the overage is to give it back, but often times lease residuals are too high...so keep that in mind as well. You don't want to be immediately upside down on something. You need to run as lean as possible right now.
No Passatrazr390 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 pm Lease is almost up in a few months. Already at 5,xxx miles over the cap. Dad is the registered owner/lease holder and he's traveling during the months that the turn-in is due. So, for sake of proactivity we are already exploring other options, but for the most part they are as follows:
I am leaning pretty heavy on keeping the GTI for now, since I drove it from new, maintenance was done every 10k miles (even 8.5-9k) and it has no real known issues to it. Could use a detail, but otherwise perfect. Monthly would effectively lower by almost 1/2.
You haz MK6?razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:46 amI did a carboner cleaning around 45k or so when they replaced my intake manifoldDetroit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:06 am Aren't there expensive issues with GTIs as they get up in age? Carbon build-up, etc? It's worth looking into so you know what you're getting into. When you're poor and starting out, the last thing you need is a sudden multi $k bill to fix your car.
Also, $13k seems to be too much for the car. Depends on how much the overage is to give it back, but often times lease residuals are too high...so keep that in mind as well. You don't want to be immediately upside down on something. You need to run as lean as possible right now.
Through extended VW warranty
Yeah it’s definitely a give/take. The car has 65,xxx and hasn’t given me any issues except WP (which was replaced twice. Once because it was a slow leak, another because of recall). WP’s on my Mk6 are covered until 120,000 miles IIRC;Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:26 amYou haz MK6?
Might want to proactively change the PCV. If/when that goes out it results in a huge repair bill because of what else it grenades. Other than that, timing chain tensioner is mostly forum hype, water pump and radiator is real because German, IM was done so that's good, DSG failure would worry me but you've done the services so it should be alright. Coil packs but they're easy.
1) first off, you have a really clean GTI, even in person. But I can understand financial concerns, and I know some good indie shops locally (most only open on weekdays) so you won't get ass raped at a stealer with an out of warranty car.razr390 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 pm Lease is almost up in a few months. Already at 5,xxx miles over the cap. Dad is the registered owner/lease holder and he's traveling during the months that the turn-in is due. So, for sake of proactivity we are already exploring other options, but for the most part they are as follows:
1. Keep the car
- The car would be financed based on residual value according to lease/purchase agreement (which is around $13,xxx IIRC).
- The car has had NO major issues even outside of the warranty
- The car is OUT OF WARRANTY
- The car has 65,xxx miles
2. Upgrade through VW into a new Golf/GTI/etc
- VW Credit relationship is good, and they will offer a nice rate/deal on a new car
- Helps soften the mileage overage fee blow, and eliminates early lease termination fees
- New car
- 2018 Model Year VW's get 6 year/72,000 mile warranty
- Carefree motoring for SIX YEARS.
3. Return GTI, take over 2017 Passat R-Line lease from my mom, and let her get her dream car.
- R-Line is a sweet looking, reliable car
- Comfortable and payment is lower than GTI's.
- Urano grey, LED lighting package on headlights and taillights
- Kind of dull to drive, but a car is a car.
4. Get a Charger (Daytona 5.7L preferred, but I'll take any)
- New/CPO/Used TBD depending on deals
5. Get a beater car for a few years, save up some and go from there.
- If I keep the GTI, payments would effectively be $17x-$2xx/month as a lease-to-own (one option)
- Get a used car
- Etc.
6. New appliance level car to beat the shit out of
- Maybe a GM product with Detroit
I am leaning pretty heavy on keeping the GTI for now, since I drove it from new, maintenance was done every 10k miles (even 8.5-9k) and it has no real known issues to it. Could use a detail, but otherwise perfect. Monthly would effectively lower by almost 1/2.
2 water pumpsrazr390 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:08 amYeah it’s definitely a give/take. The car has 65,xxx and hasn’t given me any issues except WP (which was replaced twice. Once because it was a slow leak, another because of recall). WP’s on my Mk6 are covered until 120,000 miles IIRC;Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:26 am
You haz MK6?
Might want to proactively change the PCV. If/when that goes out it results in a huge repair bill because of what else it grenades. Other than that, timing chain tensioner is mostly forum hype, water pump and radiator is real because German, IM was done so that's good, DSG failure would worry me but you've done the services so it should be alright. Coil packs but they're easy.
IM was done under oowertrain but AFAIK they mentioned that it was covered until 120,000 again since it’s an issue with the MK6. They said there was minimal carbon build up when I did the cleaning, but that it was good that I did it for warranty/Extended Warranty/etc since there’s evidence that I maintained the car properly in case of any claims.
I drove the car pretty hard back in FL, but now it’s barely being driven (maybe 3-5 miles a day in average) and the traffic laws here are full
that explains why I drive like a grandma compared to you fucking Vagina erhmmm virginia.razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:08 amYeah it’s definitely a give/take. The car has 65,xxx and hasn’t given me any issues except WP (which was replaced twice. Once because it was a slow leak, another because of recall). WP’s on my Mk6 are covered until 120,000 miles IIRC;Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:26 am
You haz MK6?
Might want to proactively change the PCV. If/when that goes out it results in a huge repair bill because of what else it grenades. Other than that, timing chain tensioner is mostly forum hype, water pump and radiator is real because German, IM was done so that's good, DSG failure would worry me but you've done the services so it should be alright. Coil packs but they're easy.
IM was done under oowertrain but AFAIK they mentioned that it was covered until 120,000 again since it’s an issue with the MK6. They said there was minimal carbon build up when I did the cleaning, but that it was good that I did it for warranty/Extended Warranty/etc since there’s evidence that I maintained the car properly in case of any claims.
I drove the car pretty hard back in FL, but now it’s barely being driven (maybe 3-5 miles a day in average) and the traffic laws here are full
Just do some serious thought into long term reliability. Upside down = stuck in car for a while. Check with Sauce who seemed to have an egg for the most miles and off'd it due to issues.