DFD

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:28 pm I get that I had the base... but Camry is also not a "cheap" car IMO. A cheap car is a yaris or even corolla.
A 20k COROLLA LE has Keyless/Bush button and safety sense standard. For 5k more you should get MORE. That's my point.

16-in. wheels
Color-keyed power outside mirrors
Automatic climate control
Premium fabric-trimmed seats
Remote keyless entry system
Available Smart Key System 181 with Push Button Start
Audio—includes 8-in. touchscreen
Toyota Safety Sense™ 2.0 (TSS 2.0) 174
Android Auto™ 73 & Apple CarPlay® 56 & Amazon Alexa 147 compatibility

Yea, I honestly can't make sense of that feature planning either. All I can figure is it's a rental special with cost being the primary driver for features. But it costs money to develop and implement a physical key, or door handles without antennas, etc for just one vehicle, so it's even more perplexing why it exists like that. Especially since it doesn't line up with lesser vehicles.

I remember when I was looking at the 4R, the salesdude claimed that Toyota had switched all models to keyless and pushbutton...claiming the 4R was the last to get it last year. He was clearly wrong, but is more evidence that Toyota has little intention of selling these to retail customers.

Material/interior in question.

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:22 pm




Material/interior in question.

Interesting... They don't sell that here.

Lowest trim here, and what they sold me:



Man that's really decontented.

Which is what I am saying You're look nice! But I think that's the "SE" trim here.

Power driver/ passenger seat. Which IMO is fine, but I am not sure why they bother with power driver.

Did it have windows?

Tar wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:17 pm Did it have windows?

No. It had
Auto headlights
Power windows
Power doors
Power drivers seat
power mirrors
remote door locks ?!
auto climate which I found incredibly pointless, but I did so on the Taco as well

But it had a rubber shift knob, rubber wheel, no start button, fairly basic interior with cloth everything and cheap plastics all around.
I think the dash was semi soft touch.

Frankly it did everything I needed it to do, and I wasn't suffering, it was a great freeway cruiser IMO. And I praised the suspension quite a bit in my write up. And I really am standing behind that.

Right after... we got taken back home in a brand new Jetta. And that thing RODE LIKE A PIECE OF SHIT compared to the Camry. Toyota does ride quality REALLY well.

Man that Camry looks none too presidential.

I have actually TWICE gotten into a Camry at the 'Emerald Isle' recently, started it up, plugged in my phone... oh, no CarPlay. Get back out, get in another car. The Corolla we rented when we got stranded in St. Petersburg also didn't have it. Surely it costs nothing, why it's an option on any car. Ferrari allegedly charges $4500 for it or something though

When I'm driving all over a city I really don't know, integrating Google Maps is pretty key.

D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:52 am I have actually TWICE gotten into a Camry at the 'Emerald Isle' recently, started it up, plugged in my phone... oh, no CarPlay. Get back out, get in another car. The Corolla we rented when we got stranded in St. Petersburg also didn't have it. Surely it costs nothing, why it's an option on any car. Ferrari allegedly charges $4500 for it or something though

When I'm driving all over a city I really don't know, integrating Google Maps is pretty key.

Oh interesting … I figured my wire was borked …

D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:52 am I have actually TWICE gotten into a Camry at the 'Emerald Isle' recently, started it up, plugged in my phone... oh, no CarPlay. Get back out, get in another car. The Corolla we rented when we got stranded in St. Petersburg also didn't have it. Surely it costs nothing, why it's an option on any car. Ferrari allegedly charges $4500 for it or something though

When I'm driving all over a city I really don't know, integrating Google Maps is pretty key.

I bet it's a request from the rental companies to disable the AA/Carplay functionality so they can upsell Navi units. There is no difference in the vehicle, it's in the infotainment unit.

According to Toyota's website, the base Camry AND the base Corolla come with AA/Carplay integration.

OR...I know in the 4R, you need to enable AA/Carplay in infotainment settings. The dude turned it on for us at delivery. It might just be disabled by default in the rental cars, and nobody knows to turn them on.

Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:12 pm OR...I know in the 4R, you need to enable AA/Carplay in infotainment settings. The dude turned it on for us at delivery. It might just be disabled by default in the rental cars, and nobody knows to turn them on.

Weird... likely that. All of the other cars I've rented from National (Hyundais, Mehstang, etc.) have had it, just plug in and go.

D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:23 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:12 pm OR...I know in the 4R, you need to enable AA/Carplay in infotainment settings. The dude turned it on for us at delivery. It might just be disabled by default in the rental cars, and nobody knows to turn them on.

Weird... likely that. All of the other cars I've rented from National (Hyundais, Mehstang, etc.) have had it, just plug in and go.

Yep same with the camero convertible I had.

D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:23 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:12 pm OR...I know in the 4R, you need to enable AA/Carplay in infotainment settings. The dude turned it on for us at delivery. It might just be disabled by default in the rental cars, and nobody knows to turn them on.

Weird... likely that. All of the other cars I've rented from National (Hyundais, Mehstang, etc.) have had it, just plug in and go.

Would be interesting if the next time you get in one that doesn't seem to have it if you could go in settings and turn it on.

Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:34 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:23 pm

Weird... likely that. All of the other cars I've rented from National (Hyundais, Mehstang, etc.) have had it, just plug in and go.

Would be interesting if the next time you get in one that doesn't seem to have it if you could go in settings and turn it on.

I'll try to find it. I've never heard of having to turn it on, so had no idea to look. That said, hopefully there will be more interesting choices than a Cammie, I should get bumped up to the :facy: tier soon. Last trip in Houston they had a 370Z and some Mercs/BMWs over there, can't really imagine grabbing the KEY to a Cammie when those are an option.

LE gets shittier interior than the higher trim models. It’s a cost saver model which is why it had the plastic steering wheel and hub caps. Was evident in the Rav4 as well, super shit interior in base model of that.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:00 pm LE gets shittier interior than the higher trim models. It’s a cost saver model which is why it had the plastic steering wheel and hub caps. Was evident in the Rav4 as well, super shit interior in base model of that.

Alloys thing was stylin

So I got a brand new X3 as a rental. And I like it way more than I should.

My buddy has the i6 version which with the m sport bullshit pack and it’s useless. This is the way to go.

+great space for 4 people
+averaging 29mpg at 105F weather with 4 people and a dog
+great headlights
+ Johnny P approved pothole handling … seriously some of the best riding cars I experienced
+ non dead steering
+ great dash + decent infotainment
+ great moonroof
+ base ?! Stereo sounds good
+ great engine trans combo, just enough power and great efficiency

-looks like every other jelly belly
-auto trunk is useless and frequently has mind of its own … I hate this feature
-blender engine noises

Overall this a non shit rav4/honderp. Great car for a side piece/wife
4/7 … if this had better styling I’d be all about it.

Great to see you enjoy a rental. It adds alot to the vacay

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:32 pm Great to see you enjoy a rental. It adds alot to the vacay

This is my fav part of trip so far …

max225 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:34 pm

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:32 pm Great to see you enjoy a rental. It adds alot to the vacay

This is my fav part of trip so far …

Where did this X3 take y'all?

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:28 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:34 pm

This is my fav part of trip so far …

Where did this X3 take y'all?

Long Beach … Beverly Hills tomorrow … so mostly la

I could go for another LA visit

max225 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:37 pm

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:28 pm

Where did this X3 take y'all?

Long Beach … Beverly Hills tomorrow … so mostly la

Go to Venice beach, let the tent dwellers sleep in the Cush interior