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I guess I'll leave mine at home, and Brad and Eric can tow their's up, IDKSno wrote:Big Brain Bradley wrote:Grom dill locked up as it can be. guy is paying off to get title, so in about 2 weeks I'll go buy / pick up. 2300 ! comes with the 600 dollar MBTHX exhaust too! I'll piss off EVERYONE
Somebody better figure out @dubshow 's trailer issues now. Bring all the groms!
We only have room for two.
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bullshit, 3 will fit.Melon wrote:I guess I'll leave mine at home, and Brad and Eric can tow their's up, IDKSno wrote:
Somebody better figure out @dubshow 's trailer issues now. Bring all the groms!
We only have room for two.
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Melon wrote:Big Brain Bradley wrote:
bullshit, 3 will fit.
That's going to be too much tongue weight for me to tow it.
3 groms is under 700 lbs no?
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It's not the gross weight, it's the tongue weight that concerns me.troyguitar wrote:Melon wrote:
That's going to be too much tongue weight for me to tow it.
3 groms is under 700 lbs no?
Two up front would be more stable, but would have the ass end of the car too low, two on the rear would be too unstable.
No real good solution, other than bringing the truck full of bikes.
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while i cannot control how much you are willing to pull with your car,Melon wrote:Big Brain Bradley wrote:
bullshit, 3 will fit.
That's going to be too much tongue weight for me to tow it.
1. added weight = / = to tongue weight. Duh, we wont overload the not even CLOSE
2. Exibhit A
3. exibhit B
4. exhibit C
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Melon wrote:We'll figure something out when the time comes closer.
The rear subframe hit a high point in asphalt paving coming back from TN in August, with all of our luggage, tools, and with a grom in tow, the ass of the car is precariously low.
I have higher ride height, higher spring rate, and less weight on the ass end of my car so it's not quite the same.
I wouldn't expect loading a 900ish lb total trailer to have a 100ish lb tongue weight to be that unstable though?
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With the Grom and KTM @ ~700lbs + 300lbs of trailer tongue weight is 125ish lbs
The issue will come down to the real estate available on the trailer.
The issue will come down to the real estate available on the trailer.
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FWIW when I towed my stuff the trailer was about 6xx lbs with 75 lb tongue weight and I couldn't even tell it was back there if I didn't see it in the rear view mirror.
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10-15% of the total weight (trailer + load) on the tongue is a good target.
Tongue height is important too...better to be pointing slightly downhill when loaded and connected. That won't be 's issue
Tongue height is important too...better to be pointing slightly downhill when loaded and connected. That won't be 's issue
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I have no doubt we can fit three, it just comes down to tongue load.4zilch wrote:With the Grom and KTM @ ~700lbs + 300lbs of trailer tongue weight is 125ish lbs
The issue will come down to the real estate available on the trailer.
I'll see what I can do to pack lighter this year as well. But, tools come in handy and Brad's Z4 trunk is
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yea my plan was two on the front mounts, one on the back, see if they fit. Will be close. if tongue too heavy, reverse, but honestly I don't think it will be too heavy on the tongue. Two big bikes was maybe a little tongue heavy on the GTI; 3 groms with one more rear biased than front is a no-nevermind IMHO.4zilch wrote:With the Grom and KTM @ ~700lbs + 300lbs of trailer tongue weight is 125ish lbs
The issue will come down to the real estate available on the trailer.
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Right. I'm saying that you should keep the tongue weight "too low" according to typical murican thinking.Melon wrote:Oh fuck me, In August I had the CB, not the Grom.
Ok, yeah, three might be possible, but, we'll have to check the tongue weight.
Again, it isn't your subframe that has a sizable dent in it now.
ROW bros tow big ass caravans that are heavier than your bikes and have really terrible aero with only 5% tongue weight on floppy little Golfs.
You could probably set the thing up to have 30 lbs on the tongue and be totally fine.
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Or we can just make Dubshow shove his into his FiST hatch sideways.
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without getting into the dynamics of towing...troyguitar wrote:Right. I'm saying that you should keep the tongue weight "too low" according to typical murican thinking.Melon wrote:Oh fuck me, In August I had the CB, not the Grom.
Ok, yeah, three might be possible, but, we'll have to check the tongue weight.
Again, it isn't your subframe that has a sizable dent in it now.
ROW bros tow big ass caravans that are heavier than your bikes and have really terrible aero with only 5% tongue weight on floppy little Golfs.
You could probably set the thing up to have 30 lbs on the tongue and be totally fine.
they get away with that shit because the speed limits are lower too.
That said, our hitches are rated for 2k lbs in 'MERICUA ( ), we are well under that, AND we are well ballanced with recommended tongue weights..... we good
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Melon wrote:Not saying it can't be done, but I'm not risking my car to tow y'all's bikes to TN.
Big Brain Bradley wrote:while i cannot control how much you are willing to pull with your car,Melon wrote:
That's going to be too much tongue weight for me to tow it.
If it comes to you not wanting to towvette I'll pull it with GTI or we can figure something else out.
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FIFYMelon wrote:BTW, for all of DFDBig Brain Bradley wrote:
5 Exhibit D
when Brad gives you Exibit D, that's when the FAX gets cereal.
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