Christianity has the same shit in it.
Women subjecting themselves to their husbands even through abuse and rape, it's in the bible.
Our cultures have weeded out the 'bad' stuff.
The problem is cultural not religious.
Christianity has the same shit in it.
Plenty =/= a widespread culture of itwap wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:13 pmOf course you don't. I don't like it either. But there are plenty of "white" dudes who treat their women like second class people, too.SixSpeeder wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:59 pm
BS, women are still treated as second class citizens largely who have to defer to their superior male keeper. They can do what they want, I don't have to like it.
dyslexic wrote:DO YOU FEEL FEAR
Since when does Christianity require a woman to cover her hair, face or entire body with a burka?
I'm not even going to argue the merits of one ancient myth over the other.
On board. Sorry.SixSpeeder wrote:Terrorism aside, I've been against Islam for a long time, way before it was trendy and more so than I'm against other religions. The way that they treat women as a whole is disgusting, and their policies/laws in general are barbaric. Women can't leave the house alone without a male chaperone in a lot of Muslim countries, and being is a death sentence. Not a whole lot for me to respect there.
My neighbor (on the street not direct) beats his wife secretly. She told her friend another lady, who told my wife. He is Muslim. I see her do all the house shit, rake leaves, shovel snow, etc. She also had to quit her job at Wendy's because too many men or whatever. There are no equal rights because America/Canuckia in that household.SixSpeeder wrote:BS, women are still treated as second class citizens largely who have to defer to their superior male keeper. They can do what they want, I don't have to like it.
The flip side. Not all the same. Ratio wise, doewap wrote:I grew up with a shit-ton of Muslim kids. One of my very best friends all through grammar school and high school was a Palestinian kid. He had a real nice family, 4 sisters, all of whom went on to great careers, and cool parents. They were strict as hell, but not psycho about it. My retired mom, who still volunteers at a local hospital once a week, just helped his retired dad get a job volunteering at the same hospital. Not a scary bone in his body.
If you know about it yet don't report it, aren't you also part of the problem? This isn't directed toward you, but in general.Tarspin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:01 pmMy neighbor (on the street not direct) beats his wife secretly. She told her friend another lady, who told my wife. He is Muslim. I see her do all the house shit, rake leaves, shovel snow, etc. She also had to quit her job at Wendy's because too many men or whatever. There are no equal rights because America/Canuckia in that household.SixSpeeder wrote:
BS, women are still treated as second class citizens largely who have to defer to their superior male keeper. They can do what they want, I don't have to like it.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
It is definitely a cultural/assimilating thing.Tarspin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:18 pm Ok just thought of one more... I know a family from Syria living close to me. Our kids play and the family is 5/7. Wife doesn't wear a burka. The husband comes from a wealthy upbringing and is very considerate of the neighbors. I refuse to paint those guys with the same brush as the wife beating fucks.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
It is insulting that some of you even compare it to the Nazi's that's some major BULLSHIT. Do you have any clue what the NAZI's DID? Or read a fucking book?Melon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:53 pmI'm not even going to argue the merits of one ancient myth over the other.
They're both bad, and good at the same time.
If you don't live Islam, that's all good and well too.
But to restrict rights, and ban people from the country who are Muslim, come the fuck on.
What matters is what people do with it.
I do agree, the way that women are treated in the Middle East is deplorable by our standards, but it's a cultural problem.
Religion is manipulated by people to justify their actions. If you convert to Islam, you don't suddenly become a woman heater.
It's the same way the Nazis used the science of genetic, or Jim Jones used Christianity to manipulate a whole congregation.
Yet we don't blame genetics and Christianity, we blame Hitler and Jim Jones.
My point is that people distort and manipulate things to their advantage, and that point was made well in that instance.maxtdi wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:25 pmIt is insulting that some of you even compare it to the Nazi's that's some major BULLSHIT. Do you have any clue what the NAZI's DID? Or read a fucking book?Melon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:53 pm
I'm not even going to argue the merits of one ancient myth over the other.
They're both bad, and good at the same time.
If you don't live Islam, that's all good and well too.
But to restrict rights, and ban people from the country who are Muslim, come the fuck on.
What matters is what people do with it.
I do agree, the way that women are treated in the Middle East is deplorable by our standards, but it's a cultural problem.
Religion is manipulated by people to justify their actions. If you convert to Islam, you don't suddenly become a woman heater.
It's the same way the Nazis used the science of genetic, or Jim Jones used Christianity to manipulate a whole congregation.
Yet we don't blame genetics and Christianity, we blame Hitler and Jim Jones.
Says the guy who wants to ban an entire religion.maxtdi wrote:I am just some refugee, I can beat women, not speak English and reap all the benefits of this country because my religion is different.
And you're a racist, xenophobic bigot for telling me to learn english.
And there aren't Christian factions who treat these groups poorly as well?
Melon wrote:Christianity has the same shit in it.
Women subjecting themselves to their husbands even through abuse and rape, it's in the bible.
Our cultures have weeded out the 'bad' stuff.
The problem is cultural not religious.
You drew a connection to one of the most heinous crimes ever committed against humanity. how do you equate that to not allowing ppl into your country that would be a bad cultural/religious fit?
Yes. Our enlightened Christian western ways have never heavily restricted what women were allowed to wear. :rollseyes:maxtdi wrote:Since when does Christianity require a woman to cover her hair, face or entire body with a burka?
Max doesn't.Tarspin wrote:Ok just thought of one more... I know a family from Syria living close to me. Our kids play and the family is 5/7. Wife doesn't wear a burka. The husband comes from a wealthy upbringing and is very considerate of the neighbors. I refuse to paint those guys with the same brush as the wife beating fucks.
Because that's the start of it, bud.maxtdi wrote:You drew a connection to one of the most heinous crimes ever committed against humanity. how do you equate that to not allowing ppl into your country that would be a bad cultural/religious fit?
I can't prove it and she'd get more beats when the cops leave. Then she wouldn't have anyone to talk to ever. If I could prove it I'd call right meow.razr390 wrote:If you know about it yet don't report it, aren't you also part of the problem? This isn't directed toward you, but in general.Tarspin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:01 pm My neighbor (on the street not direct) beats his wife secretly. She told her friend another lady, who told my wife. He is Muslim. I see her do all the house shit, rake leaves, shovel snow, etc. She also had to quit her job at Wendy's because too many men or whatever. There are no equal rights because America/Canuckia in that household.
doerazr390 wrote:It is definitely a cultural/assimilating thing.Tarspin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:18 pm Ok just thought of one more... I know a family from Syria living close to me. Our kids play and the family is 5/7. Wife doesn't wear a burka. The husband comes from a wealthy upbringing and is very considerate of the neighbors. I refuse to paint those guys with the same brush as the wife beating fucks.
I do agree, that everyone should make effort to assimilate into the society that is willing to grant them privileges and freedoms to reside there. That doesn't mean you should abandon your culture, but recognize that your culture has a place in the grand scheme of other cultures coexisting efficiently. Most people can't do that, no matter how much they try.
But we've always been divisive, it's just human nature. It's built into everything we do. iPhone vs. Android, Ford vs. GM, etc. etc.
Maybe he's saying that America needs to tread lightly on the immigration thing. Maybe stop it until the dust settles to protect the citizens of America? Protecting borders kind of thing.Calvinball wrote:Max doesn't.Tarspin wrote:Ok just thought of one more... I know a family from Syria living close to me. Our kids play and the family is 5/7. Wife doesn't wear a burka. The husband comes from a wealthy upbringing and is very considerate of the neighbors. I refuse to paint those guys with the same brush as the wife beating fucks.
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