ChrisoftheNorth wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:08 pm
Does yours have any driver assistance like lane keep or centering? If so, do you use it? I'm really curious about that for long highway drives.
Yes, I have the safety sense 2.5+ in the Camry. It does everything expected of it and works reasonably well on the highway. My Gorf had a similar system, but I prefer Toyota's adaptive cruise system better. It doesn't overreact to cars turning in front of me if they have equal or greater speed, unlike the previous system, which would hit the brakes to keep the gap the same. Lane-keeping works okay 90% of the time, but it occasionally bounces from one line to another.
The suspension/dampening is surprisingly well tuned, I mean really well tuned and it has a double-wishbone front setup. I have a mid-level thing with AA/AC on a 10" screen, heated wheel/seats, equally amazing headlights to your 4R, auto-dimming high beams, etc. If you're looking at a Subi, you'd owe it to yourself to drive both before plunking 25-30k down on either.
Edit: I have not driven a non-hybrid, so I'm not sure how different they are, but in my trim level, with the extra battery power to push it around, the car is refined and mindblown: efficient on gas. It's not fast but doesn't feel slow if that makes any sense. The Hybrid uses a Prius-like CVT, it's special to the drivetrain, but it works amazingly well. Still trying to figure out if a CVT is a right thing for you, Accord might have a
/ 2.0T, so there's that.
Before buying the Cammie, I was thinking about a used LS460/500, but ignorance is bliss, and I don't know if I could be happy about a V8 burning through premium fuel to get around in an A-B car. In this price range, they are old and will need costly repairs, and they have pretty old tech. I use AA every time I get in my car!
Side note: My buddy drove us to Windsor and back yesterday in a Chevy Cruze with a 1.4T, and its range was significantly stifled over what I'm used to getting. I filled his tank from empty just before we got on the freeway in Milton, and the fuel light was on by the time we got there and back with no other pit stops aside from a breakfast stop at On Route station. So while 650 km on 55 litres is very respectful, my Cammie would still have another 200 km of fuel left on a 45-liter tank.
but you can tell you're driving a bigger car, think of it as a large car that doesn't feel like a boat anchor.
when I'm out there. 
a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
from the factory to help city mpg plus a few other small weight reduction efforts, then some minor aero tweaks with plastic shields in front and underneath for another highway mpg.
and after 3 months of 
I gave up and bought the 
instead since I was moving to the middle of nowhere and needed a car. I didn't actually know about the 
little details that only existed on the Eco trim Cruze until years later so it wasn't on my radar.