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wap wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:57 pm :fatty:
2022 GMC Hummer EV Weighs Over 9000 Pounds, Gets 47 MPGe
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3910 ... %20Openers
There is no way in hell that thing will go 350 miles. I’d expect a “real world” 270-280. Plus once you go 20-80% it’ll be more like 170 real world daily maximum. Which frankly isn’t that bad… but charging a 200kw battery during road trips will be a 45 min to 1.5 hr ordeal.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:23 pm Looks like H/K delivered another banger of a product.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022 ... st-review/

Funny it’s the size of an X5 and yet runs a 4.4 0-60 and a quarter mile in the low 13s.
Not really, it’s slower than a 2 year old tesla stops worse and is way less efficient and doesn’t have the same charging network. But it’s a nice first effort.
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max225 wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:09 pm
wap wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:57 pm :fatty:
2022 GMC Hummer EV Weighs Over 9000 Pounds, Gets 47 MPGe
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3910 ... %20Openers
There is no way in hell that thing will go 350 miles. I’d expect a “real world” 270-280. Plus once you go 20-80% it’ll be more like 170 real world daily maximum. Which frankly isn’t that bad… but charging a 200kw battery during road trips will be a 45 min to 1.5 hr ordeal.
Yeah, I was thinking around 200 miles real world.
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wap wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:13 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:09 pm

There is no way in hell that thing will go 350 miles. I’d expect a “real world” 270-280. Plus once you go 20-80% it’ll be more like 170 real world daily maximum. Which frankly isn’t that bad… but charging a 200kw battery during road trips will be a 45 min to 1.5 hr ordeal.
Yeah, I was thinking around 200 miles real world.
Yea problem here isn’t the range it’s the fact that this battery is fking 200kw … which is insanely large
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max225 wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:13 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:23 pm Looks like H/K delivered another banger of a product.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022 ... st-review/

Funny it’s the size of an X5 and yet runs a 4.4 0-60 and a quarter mile in the low 13s.
Not really, it’s slower than a 2 year old tesla stops worse and is way less efficient and doesn’t have the same charging network. But it’s a nice first effort.
Better interior, better user interfaces, can handle a faster charging system, 4.4 to 60 is hardly slow, cheaper than the Tesla.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:36 am
max225 wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:13 pm

Not really, it’s slower than a 2 year old tesla stops worse and is way less efficient and doesn’t have the same charging network. But it’s a nice first effort.
Better interior, better user interfaces, can handle a faster charging system, 4.4 to 60 is hardly slow, cheaper than the Tesla.
I personally think the exterior design is a lot nicer and more interesting than a Model Y as well, those things are fugly.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:10 am
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:36 am

Better interior, better user interfaces, can handle a faster charging system, 4.4 to 60 is hardly slow, cheaper than the Tesla.
I personally think the exterior design is a lot nicer and more interesting than a Model Y as well, those things are fugly.
This is true. Model Ys are hideous.
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:18 am
D Griff wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:10 am

I personally think the exterior design is a lot nicer and more interesting than a Model Y as well, those things are fugly.
This is true. Model Ys are hideous.
The S is the only Tessie I really like the appearance of. Well, and the Cyber :truckyeah: if it ever actually happens.

Speaking of that, the new Rivian is fucking sick, I would take that.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:40 am
max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:18 am

This is true. Model Ys are hideous.
The S is the only Tessie I really like the appearance of. Well, and the Cyber :truckyeah: if it ever actually happens.

Speaking of that, the new Rivian is fucking sick, I would take that.
I’m really torn on rivian. One thing is to buy a first model year car another thing is a first model year from a first model company. Regardless of what they looked like
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https://www.carscoops.com/2022/02/yamah ... -manifold/

This thing is pretty wild:
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I imagine the 8-1 header would be specifically for a midengine chassis where hood clearances are less of an issue.
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:41 am
D Griff wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:40 am

The S is the only Tessie I really like the appearance of. Well, and the Cyber :truckyeah: if it ever actually happens.

Speaking of that, the new Rivian is fucking sick, I would take that.
I’m really torn on rivian. One thing is to buy a first model year car another thing is a first model year from a first model company. Regardless of what they looked like
I'm certainly not going to run out ad purchase one, but it looks awesome in the video reviews.
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:45 pm https://www.carscoops.com/2022/02/yamah ... -manifold/

This thing is pretty wild:
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I imagine the 8-1 header would be specifically for a midengine chassis where hood clearances are less of an issue.
Compared to buying an electric vehicle, this thing is like Jesus, the Virgin Mary and all the Saints arriving on the Wings of Eagles while 20,000 Seraphim play trumpets and the parting clouds reveal the white light of everlasting eternity.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:55 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:45 pm https://www.carscoops.com/2022/02/yamah ... -manifold/

This thing is pretty wild:
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I imagine the 8-1 header would be specifically for a midengine chassis where hood clearances are less of an issue.
Compared to buying an electric vehicle, this thing is like Jesus, the Virgin Mary and all the Saints arriving on the Wings of Eagles while 20,000 Seraphim play trumpets and the parting clouds reveal the white light of everlasting eternity.
Toyota, 20 years ago: "We have developed a commuter that can run partially on an electric motor to save fuel consumption. Soon available in your favorite shade of beige."

Toyota, present day: "We just developed a new V8 that runs on hydrogen and makes over 400 horsepower. INTERNAL COMBUSTION 4 LYFE!"
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So I changed the ATF in the tsx last week… was going to do the same thing on the mini …
Honda atf $9.07 per quart (need 3)
Bmw atf $47.93’per quart (need 3)
Fucking $50 a quart. I hate this type of fleecing … what on earth is worth $50 a fucking quart. This is more expensive than grey goose and patron
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:55 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:45 pm https://www.carscoops.com/2022/02/yamah ... -manifold/

This thing is pretty wild:
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I imagine the 8-1 header would be specifically for a midengine chassis where hood clearances are less of an issue.
Compared to buying an electric vehicle, this thing is like Jesus, the Virgin Mary and all the Saints arriving on the Wings of Eagles while 20,000 Seraphim play trumpets and the parting clouds reveal the white light of everlasting eternity.
:amaze:
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:13 pm So I changed the ATF in the tsx last week… was going to do the same thing on the mini …
Honda atf $9.07 per quart (need 3)
Bmw atf $47.93’per quart (need 3)
Fucking $50 a quart. I hate this type of fleecing … what on earth is worth $50 a fucking quart. This is more expensive than grey goose and patron
Willing to bet Redline sells something that meets the spec and is in line with the Honda ATF price.
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:13 pm So I changed the ATF in the tsx last week… was going to do the same thing on the mini …
Honda atf $9.07 per quart (need 3)
Bmw atf $47.93’per quart (need 3)
Fucking $50 a quart. I hate this type of fleecing … what on earth is worth $50 a fucking quart. This is more expensive than grey goose and patron
I can beat this. Genuine Mercedes Benz sunroof lube, which purportedly lubricates AND does not attract dirt, is $97 per quart. That's pretty much a lifetime supply doe.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:52 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:13 pm So I changed the ATF in the tsx last week… was going to do the same thing on the mini …
Honda atf $9.07 per quart (need 3)
Bmw atf $47.93’per quart (need 3)
Fucking $50 a quart. I hate this type of fleecing … what on earth is worth $50 a fucking quart. This is more expensive than grey goose and patron
Willing to bet Redline sells something that meets the spec and is in line with the Honda ATF price.
There is in fact a redline atf … but I’m :notsure: I want to use aftermarket fluid
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:00 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:55 pm

Compared to buying an electric vehicle, this thing is like Jesus, the Virgin Mary and all the Saints arriving on the Wings of Eagles while 20,000 Seraphim play trumpets and the parting clouds reveal the white light of everlasting eternity.
Toyota, 20 years ago: "We have developed a commuter that can run partially on an electric motor to save fuel consumption. Soon available in your favorite shade of beige."

Toyota, present day: "We just developed a new V8 that runs on hydrogen and makes over 400 horsepower. INTERNAL COMBUSTION 4 LYFE!"
There does seem to be some new management.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:56 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:13 pm So I changed the ATF in the tsx last week… was going to do the same thing on the mini …
Honda atf $9.07 per quart (need 3)
Bmw atf $47.93’per quart (need 3)
Fucking $50 a quart. I hate this type of fleecing … what on earth is worth $50 a fucking quart. This is more expensive than grey goose and patron
I can beat this. Genuine Mercedes Benz sunroof lube, which purportedly lubricates AND does not attract dirt, is $97 per quart. That's pretty much a lifetime supply doe.
That’s interesting… they sell that in quarts ? You’d think that’ll last 100 cars worth
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:58 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:56 pm

I can beat this. Genuine Mercedes Benz sunroof lube, which purportedly lubricates AND does not attract dirt, is $97 per quart. That's pretty much a lifetime supply doe.
That’s interesting… they sell that in quarts ? You’d think that’ll last 100 cars worth
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293656767190?f ... SwrVNh-D6j
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:19 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:58 pm
That’s interesting… they sell that in quarts ? You’d think that’ll last 100 cars worth
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293656767190?f ... SwrVNh-D6j
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:57 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:52 pm

Willing to bet Redline sells something that meets the spec and is in line with the Honda ATF price.
There is in fact a redline atf … but I’m :notsure: I want to use aftermarket fluid
For what it's worth, Redline is a respected brand among enthusiasts.
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Huckleberry wrote:
max225 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:57 pm There is in fact a redline atf … but I’m :notsure: I want to use aftermarket fluid
For what it's worth, Redline is a respected brand among enthusiasts.
Especially the Saturns
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rockchops wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:49 am
Huckleberry wrote:
For what it's worth, Redline is a respected brand among enthusiasts.
Especially the Saturns
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