JP’s Family Truckster
- Johnny_P
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2021 CRV EX-L Hybrid
We looked at this and the Rav4. Tried to look at a Hyundai Tucson which probably would have won out but couldn’t find any available to even look at. Picked this over the Rav due to its rear seat space / legroom, more upright seating position and more comfortable seats, better visibility out the front, and generally better body control. Despite the Toyota looking way better, having the far superior driveline, and enormously better technology.
For those that don’t know or care, all CRV hybrids are AWD with 212 HP. Their hybrid system works differently than Toyota. There is a real rear driveshaft for one. For another, there isn’t a transmission. It is propelled purely on electric power below like 50 MPH with the gas motor acting as a generator. Above that a clutch can engage to directly drive the wheels with the engine. It’s equivalent to like a 6th gear overdrive.
Engine speed has nothing to do with vehicle acceleration. It’s weird. It’s also a lot slower off the line because the gas motor doesn’t contribute to acceleration from a takeoff.
Anyways. Currently sitting right at 250 miles. 37 MPG indicated by the gauges. Hopefully that continues. It seems to do better at the constant 30-50 MPH range than the city stop and go where economy takes a serious dive.
Pros:
Agreeable driving demeanor. You’re not going to slay back roads ever. But it doesn’t feel like it will topple.
Suspension soaks it all up. Rides great.
Extra firm brake pedal.
Huge back seat for the class let’s me have more leg room when the kiddo is behind me.
Rear doors open 90 degrees. Loading the CF in is a breeze.
Enormous hatch. For baby gear. Or dog.
Memory seats. Lisa is a lot shorter than me so this is really nice.
Awesome center console storage.
The bad:
The gauges are digital but the screen is mostly black / completely wasted space. They display a bunch of useless information and some complicated and frankly stupid screens. The Cmax was FAR superior here.
The radio is an embarrassment. It’s so slow to respond, needlessly complex, and the interface looks like it was designed in 2004. It’s horrible.
Push button shifter is a gimmick. It takes up the same amount of space as a regular shift handle.
The steering wheel has chiclet buttons on it that are beyond confusing to operate. It’s also gloss black trimmed. It’s awful.
It plays a strange pedestrian warning sound at low speed that is way too loud and obnoxious.
Lane departure warning is overactive and it’s way of telling you to do something is jackhammering the steering wheel back and forth.
Overall I would have a very hard time recommending this vehicle to anyone. It’s simply too dated and the electronics feel 2 generations behind anything else on the market. Honda needs to redesign it and get rid of the horrible electronics. It’s mostly agreeable to drive. I think it feels like a piece of shit. But it’s going to be her car, if and when we move I will end up with something different.
- Johnny_P
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First mods likely to be a hitch and a rear bike rack.
Also it has its first problem. At 250 miles. The car shakes at 65-70 MPH. A low rumble / vibration happens and worsens with engine load. Happens in EV or gas mode. So it’s either wheel balance or driveline balance is off. I’ll eventually make a dealer appointment for it. Yay. Great.
Also it has its first problem. At 250 miles. The car shakes at 65-70 MPH. A low rumble / vibration happens and worsens with engine load. Happens in EV or gas mode. So it’s either wheel balance or driveline balance is off. I’ll eventually make a dealer appointment for it. Yay. Great.
- Acid666
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You guys purchased this new?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:24 am First mods likely to be a hitch and a rear bike rack.
Also it has its first problem. At 250 miles. The car shakes at 65-70 MPH. A low rumble / vibration happens and worsens with engine load. Happens in EV or gas mode. So it’s either wheel balance or driveline balance is off. I’ll eventually make a dealer appointment for it. Yay. Great.
- Johnny_P
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Yes. Brand new. Because used was $2-5k more than new MSRP. Car dealers helping us out I don’t know how the world would survive without them.Acid666 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:26 amYou guys purchased this new?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:24 am First mods likely to be a hitch and a rear bike rack.
Also it has its first problem. At 250 miles. The car shakes at 65-70 MPH. A low rumble / vibration happens and worsens with engine load. Happens in EV or gas mode. So it’s either wheel balance or driveline balance is off. I’ll eventually make a dealer appointment for it. Yay. Great.
- razr390
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That dealer needs to steal one of those “HEROES WORK HERE” banners from the nearest hospital or retirement home. They did more for your family during this covid market.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
- Johnny_P
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The real hero was the tatted up vapester at the Langhorne dealer that attempted to sell me a $31k cloth seat car for $42k, telling me he was doing me a favor with that pricing.
- razr390
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Well with that attitude none of their service advisors are going on vacation.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
- Desertbreh
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It looks ayaight. The seats look big time. You chose the seats and agreeable driving demeanor over tech. You therefore have part of your scrotum remaining, albeit a very small part.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:22 am
2021 CRV EX-L Hybrid
We looked at this and the Rav4. Tried to look at a Hyundai Tucson which probably would have won out but couldn’t find any available to even look at. Picked this over the Rav due to its rear seat space / legroom, more upright seating position and more comfortable seats, better visibility out the front, and generally better body control. Despite the Toyota looking way better, having the far superior driveline, and enormously better technology.
For those that don’t know or care, all CRV hybrids are AWD with 212 HP. Their hybrid system works differently than Toyota. There is a real rear driveshaft for one. For another, there isn’t a transmission. It is propelled purely on electric power below like 50 MPH with the gas motor acting as a generator. Above that a clutch can engage to directly drive the wheels with the engine. It’s equivalent to like a 6th gear overdrive.
Engine speed has nothing to do with vehicle acceleration. It’s weird. It’s also a lot slower off the line because the gas motor doesn’t contribute to acceleration from a takeoff.
Anyways. Currently sitting right at 250 miles. 37 MPG indicated by the gauges. Hopefully that continues. It seems to do better at the constant 30-50 MPH range than the city stop and go where economy takes a serious dive.
Pros:
Agreeable driving demeanor. You’re not going to slay back roads ever. But it doesn’t feel like it will topple.
Suspension soaks it all up. Rides great.
Extra firm brake pedal.
Huge back seat for the class let’s me have more leg room when the kiddo is behind me.
Rear doors open 90 degrees. Loading the CF in is a breeze.
Enormous hatch. For baby gear. Or dog.
Memory seats. Lisa is a lot shorter than me so this is really nice.
Awesome center console storage.
The bad:
The gauges are digital but the screen is mostly black / completely wasted space. They display a bunch of useless information and some complicated and frankly stupid screens. The Cmax was FAR superior here.
The radio is an embarrassment. It’s so slow to respond, needlessly complex, and the interface looks like it was designed in 2004. It’s horrible.
Push button shifter is a gimmick. It takes up the same amount of space as a regular shift handle.
The steering wheel has chiclet buttons on it that are beyond confusing to operate. It’s also gloss black trimmed. It’s awful.
It plays a strange pedestrian warning sound at low speed that is way too loud and obnoxious.
Lane departure warning is overactive and it’s way of telling you to do something is jackhammering the steering wheel back and forth.
Overall I would have a very hard time recommending this vehicle to anyone. It’s simply too dated and the electronics feel 2 generations behind anything else on the market. Honda needs to redesign it and get rid of the horrible electronics. It’s mostly agreeable to drive. I think it feels like a piece of shit. But it’s going to be her car, if and when we move I will end up with something different.
- Desertbreh
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I'm not a big fan of neck/face/head tats in the workplace myself. I would say everything else is fair game.
- MexicanYarisTK
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Congrats mang! It may not be the best, but it's perfect for your lifestyle at this point. Also light colored seats are great for summer. I'd also assume the Tucson would be better. But at the end of the day it cuts you from the ground and takes you to Point a-b.
Also I definitely agree with dated tech, my 2004 TSX navigation fonts and design is strangely similar to my cousins 2011 MDX, 2009 Accord, etc.
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Also I definitely agree with dated tech, my 2004 TSX navigation fonts and design is strangely similar to my cousins 2011 MDX, 2009 Accord, etc.
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- Johnny_P
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I can’t even play the hybrid game with it because the way it operates you have zero control over what the engine is doing.
Like you said hopefully it’s a trouble free ownership experience and dependable / comfy road tripper. I’ll probably try to convince Lisa to dump it in 3 years.
- Tar
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I don’t mind the color scheme, it makes the CRV look fairly dece/upscale. Not sure I'd choose it over the Rav4, mainly because Toyota has been in the hybrid game with proven reliability for the long haul. They are all appliances anyways
- razr390
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.