Car Talk 2: Un-American Motor Company.

[Gberg2119]

Refreshed Camaro is

https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-chevrolet ... 1825102774

[max225]

Refreshed Camaro is

https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-chevrolet ... 1825102774

:dunno: looks fine to me?

[Johnny_P]

Oh Jesus that does not look good.

Honda Solid Wing Face AF

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Yea...the new Camaro...yea...

[Johnny_P]

Yea...the new Camaro...yea...

The Mustang doesn't look good either.

I still love the Chally doe

[D Griff]

I think he could just get a car and never change the oil period since they get traded so quickly

The Camaro would have been bone dry and needing a new motor, twice.

I think i missed that you no longer have the Camaro? The JL will be the new DD? What is the current fleet?

[Gberg2119]

Yea...the new Camaro...yea...

The Mustang doesn't look good either.

I still love the Chally doe

The refresh just cements it as being the ugliest of the three and it's not even close. That black bar going across the nose of the SS is .

The mustang may not look good but it's not hideous like this. It's grown on me a bit to be inoffensive. Challenger is still the best looking of the three.

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[CorvetteWaxer]

Yea...the new Camaro...yea...

Headlights: FAIL
Taillights: FAIL
Grille:

[CorvetteWaxer]

The Camaro would have been bone dry and needing a new motor, twice.

I think i missed that you no longer have the Camaro? The JL will be the new DD? What is the current fleet?

Got rid of the Camaro on Saturday and bought a Colorado ZR2. JL is still inbound. I will swap between the JL and the ZR2 with the wife and keep the Z06 for sunny weather days.

[Johnny_P]

Yea...the new Camaro...yea...

Headlights: FAIL
Taillights: FAIL
Grille:

IT NEEDS MOAR GRILLE

[Johnny_P]

I think i missed that you no longer have the Camaro? The JL will be the new DD? What is the current fleet?

Got rid of the Camaro on Saturday and bought a Colorado ZR2. JL is still inbound. I will swap between the JL and the ZR2 with the wife and keep the Z06 for sunny weather days.

what color did you get? Sick truck!

[max225]

Got rid of the Camaro on Saturday and bought a Colorado ZR2. JL is still inbound. I will swap between the JL and the ZR2 with the wife and keep the Z06 for sunny weather days.

what color did you get? Sick truck!

silver

[Johnny_P]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... ul-engine/

Some 2019 Miata deets leaking

181 HP (+26 HP)
151 lb-ft (+3 lb-ft)
Possibly increased redline
Telescoping steering wheel!

[max225]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... ul-engine/

Some 2019 Miata deets leaking

181 HP (+26 HP)
151 lb-ft (+3 lb-ft)
Possibly increased redline
Telescoping steering wheel!

Since it has barely any increase in torque... I am assuming the redline is getting raised by 500-900 revs

[D Griff]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... ul-engine/

Some 2019 Miata deets leaking

181 HP (+26 HP)
151 lb-ft (+3 lb-ft)
Possibly increased redline
Telescoping steering wheel!

This is awesome.

I'm renting a Fiata this week, starting tomorrow. I'm pretty excited to try out this platform.

[Johnny_P]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... ul-engine/

Some 2019 Miata deets leaking

181 HP (+26 HP)
151 lb-ft (+3 lb-ft)
Possibly increased redline
Telescoping steering wheel!

This is awesome.

I'm renting a Fiata this week, starting tomorrow. I'm pretty excited to try out this platform.

How was the Bimmer?

[D Griff]

This is awesome.

I'm renting a Fiata this week, starting tomorrow. I'm pretty excited to try out this platform.

How was the Bimmer?

I liked it. Allison also really like it

Steering and handling were nice, the seats were super comfy, great road trip/DD type car.

I'd have to get a one though, the six speed was pretty shitty. Power with the NA 6 cylinder was decent enough, not fast, not slow. I can see why people like these cars, it does a lot of things pretty well, comfortable, quiet, looks great, fairly fun to drive. It was surprisingly small though, the trunk is smaller than the '97 Civic I had, back seat too, despite the fact that it's a bigger and heavier car.

If I add a DD at some point, I'll consider a 3 series still, but I think if there's already a RWD car in the stable, a hot hatch of sorts might make more sense. They get much better fuel economy, are quicker, and have more usable space, you're just giving up looks (generally) and RWD.

[max225]

How was the Bimmer?

I liked it. Allison also really like it

Steering and handling were nice, the seats were super comfy, great road trip/DD type car.

I'd have to get a one though, the six speed was pretty shitty. Power with the NA 6 cylinder was decent enough, not fast, not slow. I can see why people like these cars, it does a lot of things pretty well, comfortable, quiet, looks great, fairly fun to drive. It was surprisingly small though, the trunk is smaller than the '97 Civic I had, back seat too, despite the fact that it's a bigger and heavier car.

If I add a DD at some point, I'll consider a 3 series still, but I think if there's already a RWD car in the stable, a hot hatch of sorts might make more sense. They get much better fuel economy, are quicker, and have more usable space, you're just giving up looks (generally) and RWD.

The E90 is very small out back. It has less backseat space than a golf... and agreed on 6 speed... it is

[D Griff]

I liked it. Allison also really like it

Steering and handling were nice, the seats were super comfy, great road trip/DD type car.

I'd have to get a one though, the six speed was pretty shitty. Power with the NA 6 cylinder was decent enough, not fast, not slow. I can see why people like these cars, it does a lot of things pretty well, comfortable, quiet, looks great, fairly fun to drive. It was surprisingly small though, the trunk is smaller than the '97 Civic I had, back seat too, despite the fact that it's a bigger and heavier car.

If I add a DD at some point, I'll consider a 3 series still, but I think if there's already a RWD car in the stable, a hot hatch of sorts might make more sense. They get much better fuel economy, are quicker, and have more usable space, you're just giving up looks (generally) and RWD.

The E90 is very small out back. It has less backseat space than a golf... and agreed on 6 speed... it is

I will make the bold statement that the six speed auto in the F550 is significantly more responsive and enjoyable to operate.

[max225]

The E90 is very small out back. It has less backseat space than a golf... and agreed on 6 speed... it is

I will make the bold statement that the six speed auto in the F550 is significantly more responsive and enjoyable to operate.

it is likely that the 6 speed in the BMW has never been serviced either... dat lifetime fill... that kills the tranny by 120k-150k miles...

BTW the car you drove looks like it was fairly old too... how was it holding up? leather wear? Shiny wheel? all buttons/pixels work?
Funny noises or vibrations?

[Davestr]

https://jalopnik.com/here-is-bmws-m2-co ... 1825093583

Here’s The 410 HP BMW M2 Competition Before You're Supposed To See It

[Johnny_P]

The E90 is very small out back. It has less backseat space than a golf... and agreed on 6 speed... it is

I will make the bold statement that the six speed auto in the F550 is significantly more responsive and enjoyable to operate.

That's disappointing. Yeah E90 you should def get the
The newer ones with the 8AT? I dunno. Auto might be the better pick. Certainly would deserve more discussion. I didn't exactly like the 8AT but I also didn't try it in bro mode.

[Davestr]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... ul-engine/

Some 2019 Miata deets leaking

181 HP (+26 HP)
151 lb-ft (+3 lb-ft)
Possibly increased redline
Telescoping steering wheel!

This is awesome.

I'm renting a Fiata this week, starting tomorrow. I'm pretty excited to try out this platform.

[coogles]

Refreshed Camaro is

https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-chevrolet ... 1825102774

[D Griff]

I will make the bold statement that the six speed auto in the F550 is significantly more responsive and enjoyable to operate.

it is likely that the 6 speed in the BMW has never been serviced either... dat lifetime fill... that kills the tranny by 120k-150k miles...

BTW the car you drove looks like it was fairly old too... how was it holding up? leather wear? Shiny wheel? all buttons/pixels work?
Funny noises or vibrations?

It was pretty solid, actually. It was a 2008. The dudebro who I rented it from clearly didn't give much of a damn about the car, didn't even check m license.

Seats were in great shape, nothing in the interior looked worn at all other than the steering wheel shine, but nothing offensive. It drove pretty well, the only thing that was off about it was a sort of steering jerk under heavy brake application, some kind of alignment issue maybe.