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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:41 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:40 pm

I say this like I'm not fully aware why they don't build shit for me.

Let me rant in peace FFS.
You should just go buy a CUV like a good peasant.
I'd love to see what someone could do with a performance CUV w/ long travel active suspension. It works amazingly well in the motorcycle world, but then again it's apples vs. oranges.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:44 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:41 pm

You should just go buy a CUV like a good peasant.
I'd love to see what someone could do with a performance CUV w/ long travel active suspension. It works amazingly well in the motorcycle world, but then again it's apples vs. oranges.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:44 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:41 pm

You should just go buy a CUV like a good peasant.
I'd love to see what someone could do with a performance CUV w/ long travel active suspension. It works amazingly well in the motorcycle world, but then again it's apples vs. oranges.
Motorcycles get to change their center of gravity location relative to the wheels to assist in turns. CUVs don't.

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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:48 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:44 pm

I'd love to see what someone could do with a performance CUV w/ long travel active suspension. It works amazingly well in the motorcycle world, but then again it's apples vs. oranges.
Motorcycles get to change their center of gravity location relative to the wheels to assist in turns. CUVs don't.

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But what if they did? :mindblown:
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Apex wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:49 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:48 pm

Motorcycles get to change their center of gravity location relative to the wheels to assist in turns. CUVs don't.

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But what if they did? :mindblown:
:dat: dynamic ride height adjustment
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max225 wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:45 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:44 pm

I'd love to see what someone could do with a performance CUV w/ long travel active suspension. It works amazingly well in the motorcycle world, but then again it's apples vs. oranges.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:50 pm
Apex wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:49 pm

But what if they did? :mindblown:
:dat: dynamic ride height adjustment
Up/down but not left/right like a motorcycle.
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:56 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:50 pm

:dat: dynamic ride height adjustment
Up/down but not left/right like a motorcycle.
Only change one side or the other and it'll shift doe.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:34 pm

Curious to see how it performs and how it's priced. I like things that are a bit different from the norm, and I don't mind asymmetrism too much - I deal with on motorcycles....deciding to take pics on the exhaust side, or swingarm side :math:
Asymmetry doesn’t bother me on bikes as much, though I do hate Cannondale lefty forks.

But single sided swing arms are kinda hot.

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I love the lefty forks. I want to move to a city just so I can have a reason to buy one of their urban lefties.

Assymetrical headlights doe. :disgust: :triggered:
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max225 wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:59 pm Image

NEW RAV 4 is coming everyone... Image
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That's me paying for my renos

:aintcare: :gottadowhatugottado:
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max225 wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:44 pm GTI is lighter than the last gen. And it is still well under 170" it is quite a small car... Why would anyone want anything smaller if you actually drive and use the car.
Vary rarely do I need anything larger than a FiST :iono:
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Tarspin wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:46 pm
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That's me paying for my renos

:aintcare: :gottadowhatugottado:
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4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:02 pm

I love the lefty forks. I want to move to a city just so I can have a reason to buy one of their urban lefties.

Assymetrical headlights doe. :disgust: :triggered:
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Yeah, asymmetrical headlight setups are :dislike:

I think my hatred of the lefty fork comes more from the higher maintenance demands of the fork design. Needle bearings. :nope:
They were great when they came out. Current forks from Fox and RS are likely better now. Those bearings gave it mind blowing small bump sensitivity though.
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pods will never happen, my grandpa still rides horses :triggered: crew
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Google has been working on this shit since 2006, I sure hope OEMs can beat this soon.
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[user not found] wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:03 am
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0-60 6.5 seconds, or .5 faster than before :jimp:
3 cyl so it will sound neat :jimp:
More power than before :jimp:
Torque vectoring AND LSD available :jimp:
3 driving modes :gaydance:
Tripoding in the promo vid :jimp:
New steering wheel looks :jimp:

Man. This would be a lot of fun. This is what the GTI should be, not the huge minivan it is. Hell the STI used to be about that size too, I wish it still were. The smaller older Imprezas were more fun than these bigger ones. I would actually consider getting one to replace the STI.
It’s a shame we don’t get the Polo GTI too.
:dat:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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4zilch wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:20 am So now the only hot hatches in the USA are:
Veloster N
Focus ST
GTI
Cooper S
Abarf?
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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max225 wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:59 pm Image

NEW RAV 4 is coming everyone... :lol:
:whocares:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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https://kerbeck.com/corvettes/2019-chev ... ew-g19093/

2019 Corvette with actual paint... vs the shit they have been spraying for years

49k! That's like really close what :deserbreh: paid for his GS a year or so ago. :mindblown:
New car with warranty and 2 free service visits..
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https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/d/ ... 22107.html
Higher mile GS for 22k with the slushotronic ... :notbad:
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So much :disgust: but the ride is insanely nice so :aintcare: Also, free commuting so :aintcare: :aintcare:
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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max225 wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:36 pm https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/d/2 ... 22556.html

C5.2 Grand Sport for 35k

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:notbad:

These things are coming down in price.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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max225 wrote:https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/d/2 ... 22556.html

C5.2 Grand Sport for 35k

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:woodplow: for 5k less and a different color
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Tarspin wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:58 pm
max225 wrote:https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/d/2 ... 22556.html

C5.2 Grand Sport for 35k

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:woodplow: for 5k less and a different color
Yea, once these things hit $30k. :nuke:
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