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I have a friend looking into a KTM 690 Duke.
Any pros or cons to him buying that bike?
Any pros or cons to him buying that bike?
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Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:20 am I have a friend looking into a KTM 690 Duke.
Any pros or cons to him buying that bike?
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Someone was telling him the bike has super bad valve issues. You cant go more than 500 miles without needing work. Truth?4zilch wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:23 amBarnes93cb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:20 am I have a friend looking into a KTM 690 Duke.
Any pros or cons to him buying that bike?
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Rocker bearing issues are a thing, but appear to be pretty hit or miss. I haven’t done enough research to determine the factors at play. Valve intervals are 6200 miles iirc and pretty easy to do if one is mechanically inclined. The 690 lump has been around in one for or another for quite some time and is otherwise pretty darn reliable.Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:26 amSomeone was telling him the bike has super bad valve issues. You cant go more than 500 miles without needing work. Truth?
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Ill let him know. Thanks zilch.4zilch wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:47 amRocker bearing issues are a thing, but appear to be pretty hit or miss. I haven’t done enough research to determine the factors at play. Valve intervals are 6200 miles iirc and pretty easy to do if one is mechanically inclined. The 690 lump has been around in one for or another for quite some time and is otherwise pretty darn reliable.Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:26 am
Someone was telling him the bike has super bad valve issues. You cant go more than 500 miles without needing work. Truth?
6200 miles seems so short. 1) I dont know how to do that. 2) I dont know if/ when my bolt requires that. 3) im at 5500 and I guess I should figure that out.
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At first glance, looks like 12k miles for the Bolt.Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:02 amIll let him know. Thanks zilch.4zilch wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:47 am
Rocker bearing issues are a thing, but appear to be pretty hit or miss. I haven’t done enough research to determine the factors at play. Valve intervals are 6200 miles iirc and pretty easy to do if one is mechanically inclined. The 690 lump has been around in one for or another for quite some time and is otherwise pretty darn reliable.
6200 miles seems so short. 1) I dont know how to do that. 2) I dont know if/ when my bolt requires that. 3) im at 5500 and I guess I should figure that out.
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buy yer own grom, wants to hit grom track days with his nowstripethree wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:18 pmGoddammit. The world keeps finding things for me to on. Let's chat. What's better than one underutilized motorcycle? TWO underutilized motorcycles.
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I approve this message.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:24 pm buy yer own grom, wants to hit grom track days with his now
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I do?Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:24 pmbuy yer own grom, wants to hit grom track days with his nowstripethree wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:18 pm
Goddammit. The world keeps finding things for me to on. Let's chat. What's better than one underutilized motorcycle? TWO underutilized motorcycles.
ah, yes, I mean, I DO!
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I picked up some yamalube, a filter, and some new brake pads. Its time for some TLC on the bike.
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Planning suspension modz on both bikes in the coming months.
Changing fluid, valves, and shim stack on the 650 forks. Possibly rebuilding the rear shock as well.
KTM will be getting an aftermarket cartridge kit for the forks.
Changing fluid, valves, and shim stack on the 650 forks. Possibly rebuilding the rear shock as well.
KTM will be getting an aftermarket cartridge kit for the forks.
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Without diving too deeply into things. Here's some readings. I'm still learning as I go as well.
http://www.totalcontroltraining.net/Sus ... 1eBook.pdf
https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/moto ... age#page-4
http://tech.dvosuspension.com/shim-stack-technology/
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For stupid stance style points.
Not for actual handling. Don't troll the guy hahaha
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Im sure he knows better. And I used the troll face.
Im on a cruiser page and its great to read the comments between guys talking about handling.
"I lowered the front and rear of my bike. my center of gravity is lower and it rides great. "
"no you reduced your lean angle and ruined any handling you had"
"ive got more riding than any of you im 81"
"thanks grandpa but here is physics"
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I saw the trollface and decided not to biteBarnes93cb wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:31 amIm sure he knows better. And I used the troll face.
Im on a cruiser page and its great to read the comments between guys talking about handling.
"I lowered the front and rear of my bike. my center of gravity is lower and it rides great. "
"no you reduced your lean angle and ruined any handling you had"
"ive got more riding than any of you im 81"
"thanks grandpa but here is physics"
But yes, all of those things you quoted. Fucking cruise crowd
I used to have these arguments with my uncle (rides a Harley). I've since stopped wasting my time.
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I understand that my cruiser will never handle like any other bike. I have accepted that. But I also love to lean that bike as much as possible. I also understand I know nothing about tuning a bike for handling.4zilch wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:45 amI saw the trollface and decided not to biteBarnes93cb wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:31 am
Im sure he knows better. And I used the troll face.
Im on a cruiser page and its great to read the comments between guys talking about handling.
"I lowered the front and rear of my bike. my center of gravity is lower and it rides great. "
"no you reduced your lean angle and ruined any handling you had"
"ive got more riding than any of you im 81"
"thanks grandpa but here is physics"
But yes, all of those things you quoted. Fucking cruise crowd
I used to have these arguments with my uncle (rides a Harley). I've since stopped wasting my time.
I have a miata with plenty of capability when I really want to push my boundaries.
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And that’s ok. I found the limitations on my vrod and decided to buy something that better fit my riding desires.Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:53 amI understand that my cruiser will never handle like any other bike. I have accepted that. But I also love to lean that bike as much as possible. I also understand I know nothing about tuning a bike for handling.
I have a miata with plenty of capability when I really want to push my boundaries.
I get when someone argues about cruiser handling “improvements” or “capabilities”.
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I don't know what you're talking about... My Harley handles the corners like nothing else.4zilch wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:01 amAnd that’s ok. I found the limitations on my vrod and decided to buy something that better fit my riding desires.Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:53 am
I understand that my cruiser will never handle like any other bike. I have accepted that. But I also love to lean that bike as much as possible. I also understand I know nothing about tuning a bike for handling.
I have a miata with plenty of capability when I really want to push my boundaries.
I get when someone argues about cruiser handling “improvements” or “capabilities”.
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I found a clean r6 in Tarzana... Anyone wanna go look at it for me? I don't own a truck or have a trailer for the I guess I could uber there but fuck 100 bucks just to go look at a bike is ridiculous if I don't end up buying it.
I found a clean r6 in Tarzana... Anyone wanna go look at it for me? I don't own a truck or have a trailer for the I guess I could uber there but fuck 100 bucks just to go look at a bike is ridiculous if I don't end up buying it.
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I am certain there are ways to improve handling. But I would bet they are minimal improvements.4zilch wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:01 amAnd that’s ok. I found the limitations on my vrod and decided to buy something that better fit my riding desires.Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:53 am
I understand that my cruiser will never handle like any other bike. I have accepted that. But I also love to lean that bike as much as possible. I also understand I know nothing about tuning a bike for handling.
I have a miata with plenty of capability when I really want to push my boundaries.
I get when someone argues about cruiser handling “improvements” or “capabilities”.
I wish I could ride something a bit sportier. But like stated before I hate the look of most upright bikes and my back wont let me lean on a sports bike. I really need to find the happy medium.