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The factory chevy/ford drivers are also a lot fucking faster than the Car&Driver hacks:

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/l ... ar-feature

They did 2:43 and 2:44 in the GT and Z06, respectively.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:08 pm The factory chevy/ford drivers are also a lot fucking faster than the Car&Driver hacks:

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/l ... ar-feature

They did 2:43 and 2:44 in the GT and Z06, respectively.
Corvette grand sport at 2:47 and call it a day. That's major buckage for the buckeroos, as always. But it won't drop any panties like a :unicorn: Porch.

Funny though all that tech all those millions/billions spent and it is barely faster than a car on leaf springs with pushrods.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/doronlevin ... 9b70261536
Hackett has said he intends to cut $14 billion in cost, invest $11 billion in electrified vehicles and cut models from the lineup that aren't selling well. One rumor is that Ford's Fusion midsize sedan may be on the chopping block in the U.S. though it may continue to sell in China.
Wow how the tables have turned.

In 09 GM+FCA went kaputt while Fraud escaped limping on 1 leg...
in 18 Ford is bleeding and somehow incapable of making money in one of the most lucrative periods in automotive history, while GM and FCA are literally rolling in :waxer:
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Seems to me that Ford is just looking forward more than the others? There's no point in engineering and selling 36 different flavors of appliances when 90% of sales come from 3 models.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:40 pm Seems to me that Ford is just looking forward more than the others? There's no point in engineering and selling 36 different flavors of appliances when 90% of sales come from 3 models.
FCA is the one that cut their cars and only selling :truk: 's and :jeep: 's
GM and fraud still have a ton of mediocre useless cars that are down 10-90% yoy and that no one wants
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Detroit wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:46 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:52 pm Just got this sent to me.



https://amp.detroitnews.com/amp/109986000



:impressive: :plaid:
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I'll pass on the ZR1 and look again with the ZR1 variant of the Mid-Engine car. The Z06 is fine, but I have been thinking about getting rid of it.... I'm sure that will pass when it warms up here though.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:03 pm
wap wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:53 am Lotus SUV?
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/lotus ... 5E12AD592A



It'll probably be pretty epic, if it ever gets built.
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I want an orange Evora 400.
gotta keep the company and brand demand going I guess :sad:
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max225 wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:43 pm
troyguitar wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:40 pm Seems to me that Ford is just looking forward more than the others? There's no point in engineering and selling 36 different flavors of appliances when 90% of sales come from 3 models.
FCA is the one that cut their cars and only selling :truk: 's and :jeep: 's
GM and fraud still have a ton of mediocre useless cars that are down 10-90% yoy and that no one wants
Does FCA have anything for the next fad :doe: ?

Ferd/GM have other shit besides :truk: :jeep: :minivan:
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:52 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:43 pm

FCA is the one that cut their cars and only selling :truk: 's and :jeep: 's
GM and fraud still have a ton of mediocre useless cars that are down 10-90% yoy and that no one wants
Does FCA have anything for the next fad :doe: ?

Ferd/GM have other shit besides :truk: :jeep: :minivan:
:nope: I don’t think they are thinking that far because the next fad will be pods. And they have the Pacifica pod which google ordered “thousands” off apparently
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fledonfoot wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:27 pm

$2800 windshields, doe.

Every aftermarket one I ever saw installed leaked.

And the body panels at the base of the glass/cowl/top of fender comes loose again.

But yeah, frame rot.
$2800 windshields? :wat:
OEM glass is ~1800.

No glass company I ever worked with replaced it without replacing the four seals around the glass... around $600. Then would charge ~$300 labor.
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fledonfoot wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:44 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:56 pm

$2800 windshields? :wat:
OEM glass is ~1800.

No glass company I ever worked with replaced it without replacing the four seals around the glass... around $600. Then would charge ~$300 labor.
And still fucked it up in the end? :impressive:
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -oil-rises

Stretch pay and higher oil prices will mean more REPO's....POAD's not getting good news.
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Davestr wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:55 am https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -oil-rises

Stretch pay and higher oil prices will mean more REPO's....POAD's not getting good news.
If poors continue to live outside of their budgets this certainly will be the case.
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:09 am
Davestr wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:55 am https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -oil-rises

Stretch pay and higher oil prices will mean more REPO's....POAD's not getting good news.
If poors continue to live outside of their budgets this certainly will be the case.
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Davestr wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:55 am https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -oil-rises

Stretch pay and higher oil prices will mean more REPO's....POAD's not getting good news.
I had to google POAD... :bruh: we call em :mahtroy: 's around here.
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:00 pm
Davestr wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:55 am https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -oil-rises

Stretch pay and higher oil prices will mean more REPO's....POAD's not getting good news.
I had to google POAD... :bruh: we call em :mahtroy: 's around here.
Yo I put POAD in the DFD lexicon while I was in The Kong.....its legit......and a useful alternative to the Troy-esque reference :)


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POAD = Poor’s on the road. Most likely on stretch pay in Kia etc.

Useage:

I didn’t see many POAD’s in Dubai.

Term developed- Walking in Hong Kong there were adverts for a company named POAD. Seemed a perfect fit for DFD. The use for DFD came to me instantly 😀🤡
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Porsche needing to educate its drivers again...about the physics of brakes LOL - https://jalopnik.com/porsche-please-sto ... 1822648682
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Davestr wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:40 pm https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-kia-sting ... 1822643041

Kia Stinger is the real deal
The cost for it is comparable to an M car or possibly more than M sport if you were to look at expenses. Why not just do that?!
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:09 pm
Davestr wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:40 pm https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-kia-sting ... 1822643041

Kia Stinger is the real deal
The cost for it is comparable to an M car or possibly more than M sport if you were to look at expenses. Why not just do that?!
Considering it's 5/6-series sized, :idbu:

That being said, I'd only buy a base 4-banger for $20k less.
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troyguitar wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:11 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:09 pm

The cost for it is comparable to an M car or possibly more than M sport if you were to look at expenses. Why not just do that?!
Considering it's 5/6-series sized, :idbu:

That being said, I'd only buy a base 4-banger for $20k less.
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:00 pm
Davestr wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:55 am https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -oil-rises

Stretch pay and higher oil prices will mean more REPO's....POAD's not getting good news.
I had to google POAD... :bruh: we call em :mahtroy: 's around here.
Curiosity got me and I had to google it too.

I try to avoid the subject as much as possible so I don't seem even more like what you all think I am. :lolol:
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:21 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:00 pm

I had to google POAD... :bruh: we call em :mahtroy: 's around here.
Curiosity got me and I had to google it too.

I try to avoid the subject as much as possible so I don't seem even more like what you all think I am. :lolol:
I think you are utterly amazing, inspirationally and jeeply magnificent!! :)
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Davestr wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:56 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:21 pm

Curiosity got me and I had to google it too.

I try to avoid the subject as much as possible so I don't seem even more like what you all think I am. :lolol:
I think you are utterly amazing, inspirationally and jeeply magnificent!! :)
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