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Miata is just the :poorvette: for :pussy: s
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Detroit wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:32 pm Miata is just the :poorvette: for :pussy: s
Also this, tried a more diplomatic tack.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
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Desertbreh wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:52 pm
Detroit wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:32 pm Miata is just the :poorvette: for :pussy: s
Also this, tried a more diplomatic tack.
Not everyone can handle 440whp under the right foot.

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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Spent the afternoon with [user not found] pulling the hipster heep apart to install the tow hitch.

Hitch retrofit kit I bought was 5/7 legit... just had to pull the back of the truck apart. A lot.

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fledonfoot wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:50 pm Spent the afternoon with [user not found] pulling the hipster heep apart to install the tow hitch.

Hitch retrofit kit I bought was 5/7 legit... just had to pull the back of the truck apart. A lot.

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:like: OEM hitch retrofit?
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Apex wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:22 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:50 pm Spent the afternoon with [user not found] pulling the hipster heep apart to install the tow hitch.

Hitch retrofit kit I bought was 5/7 legit... just had to pull the back of the truck apart. A lot.

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:like: OEM hitch retrofit?
Yeah, didn’t want to do a Curt hitch and lose ground clearance.

Found a company that put together a retrofit kit for $400 (now $600) that has the OEM rear bumper bar w/ receiver, OEM trim bezel, hardware, detailed instructions and a template to cut the OEM bumper cover to make it all work. Even came with extra clips to replace the ones they know you’re going to break.

I skipped on the wiring. Don’t ever plan on towing with it... it’s just for the bike rack.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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fledonfoot wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:27 pm
Apex wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:22 pm

:like: OEM hitch retrofit?
Yeah, didn’t want to do a Curt hitch and lose ground clearance.

Found a company that put together a retrofit kit for $400 (now $600) that has the OEM rear bumper bar w/ receiver, OEM trim bezel, hardware, detailed instructions and a template to cut the OEM bumper cover to make it all work. Even came with extra clips to replace the ones they know you’re going to break.

I skipped on the wiring. Don’t ever plan on towing with it... it’s just for the bike rack.
:notbad:
Sounds similar to what we've done on the Grand Cherokee's, we went with the wiring kit on this one doe.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:33 pm
[user not found] wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:15 pm

No, that's why I was so :mindblown:

Guy has a vapebro'd last gen STI in pearl white with mag blue wheels and green waxables. Slightly older guy too, I'd say 40-ish.

Nothing makes sense.
Probably a drug :dillerman: then.
:lolol: maybe a vape :dillerman:
:doughnut: :narc: :doughnut:
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fledonfoot wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:27 pm
Apex wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:22 pm

:like: OEM hitch retrofit?
Yeah, didn’t want to do a Curt hitch and lose ground clearance.

Found a company that put together a retrofit kit for $400 (now $600) that has the OEM rear bumper bar w/ receiver, OEM trim bezel, hardware, detailed instructions and a template to cut the OEM bumper cover to make it all work. Even came with extra clips to replace the ones they know you’re going to break.

I skipped on the wiring. Don’t ever plan on towing with it... it’s just for the bike rack.
Roof rack?
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fledonfoot wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:50 pm Spent the afternoon with [user not found] pulling the hipster heep apart to install the tow hitch.

Hitch retrofit kit I bought was 5/7 legit... just had to pull the back of the truck apart. A lot.

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That color is fantastic. How you guys liking the trucklet so far?
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:29 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:34 pm

Roof rack?
Even guys like myself would need a step stool to throw a bike on the roof, the Renegade sits pretty tall and upright.
I always just use the tires or open the door and use the door frame to stand on.

But ok, I can see the convenience of the hitch
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Detroit wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:32 pm Miata is just the :poorvette: for :pussy: s
Ehhh...

I'm going to take the middle ground on this one.

A :poorvette: sucks to drive around in a city, no ground clearance, massive turning radius, wide as hell and difficult to park due to not being able to see the corners of the car.

I view it like this, a rating in fun factors:

City/in town driving fun: Miata 5/7, :poorvette: 2/7

Autox: Miata 5/7, :poorvette: 4/7

Canyon carving/back road cruising: Miata 4/7, :poorvette: 5/7

Track: I haven't tracked a Miata (but likely 5/7 with mods needed though), :poorvette: 6/7 stock, 7/7 with modz
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:29 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:34 pm

Roof rack?
Even guys like myself would need a step stool to throw a bike on the roof, the Renegade sits pretty tall and upright.
Throwing my ~28 lb hardtail on top of my friend's Impreza wagon was a little :notsure: in and of itself. Let alone adding 8" or whatever to the roof height. Would be difficult, you'd certainly need to step up into the door jamb to do it. Quite a bit easier to plop it onto a rear rack. I prefer roof racks because I think it's safer for the bike as long as you don't have a garage or low clearance to deal with, but I totally understand the reason to do the hitch on a taller vehicle.

Truk is best doe, IMO. Just throw it in the bed NFG. Saw a bunch of people with the @detroit style afghan blankets on their tailgates and the bikes just hanging the front wheels out.
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D Griff wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:33 am
Detroit wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:32 pm Miata is just the :poorvette: for :pussy: s
Ehhh...

I'm going to take the middle ground on this one.

A :poorvette: sucks to drive around in a city, no ground clearance, massive turning radius, wide as hell and difficult to park due to not being able to see the corners of the car.

I view it like this, a rating in fun factors:

City/in town driving fun: Miata 5/7, :poorvette: 2/7

Autox: Miata 5/7, :poorvette: 4/7

Canyon carving/back road cruising: Miata 4/7, :poorvette: 5/7

Track: I haven't tracked a Miata (but likely 5/7 with mods needed though), :poorvette: 6/7 stock, 7/7 with modz
Wringing a car out everywhere is quite fun. I can't redline my STI much anywhere. It's quite a bit faster than my GTI was, which I took to redline constantly on the bigger boulevards in the city.

I'd be OK with BRZ power levels, personally. Miata is basically there due to lower weight.
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:59 am This is awesome: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/20/mem ... de-7310886

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Yep that is fab!
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The Cheap Alfa Romeo Giulias Are Coming
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:59 am This is awesome: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/20/mem ... de-7310886

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Love the new 911.

also. I want an alfa.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Al ... 277?ax8324

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Davestr wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:09 pm Black always looks good on an Aston! https://jalopnik.com/the-aston-martin-v ... 1825465002
I love the new Vantage. :jimp:
They did a nice refresh on that machine. Smooth and a touch mean. I love it as well!
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Davestr wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:28 pm
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I love the new Vantage. :jimp:
They did a nice refresh on that machine. Smooth and a touch mean. I love it as well!
Lime green diffuser on a black 370Z? Ricer JDM garbage. Lime green diffuser on a black Aston Martin? "Eccentric"
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:59 am This is awesome: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/20/mem ... de-7310886

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Love the new 911.

also. I want an alfa.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Al ... 277?ax8324

:pftch:
:dat:

4C Spider in white with red interior = :fuckyeah:

Supercharged Elise is about the same price :doe: and has :manuel:
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Davestr wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:28 pm They did a nice refresh on that machine. Smooth and a touch mean. I love it as well!
Lime green diffuser on a black 370Z? Ricer JDM garbage. Lime green diffuser on a black Aston Martin? "Eccentric"
The new Vantage looks like it could easily be the new Supra. I hate it.
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Desertbreh wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:42 pm
Davestr wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:28 pm

They did a nice refresh on that machine. Smooth and a touch mean. I love it as well!
Lime green diffuser on a black 370Z? Ricer JDM garbage. Lime green diffuser on a black Aston Martin? "Eccentric"
"Look how fun and youthful we are!"

Vape nation will love this
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Davestr wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:10 pm https://jalopnik.com/the-cheap-alfa-rom ... 1825452556

The Cheap Alfa Romeo Giulias Are Coming
2.0T :jalepenis: motor
Most will be open diff
Undefeatable traction control
Questionable reliability, build quality, and materials

There's a reason they are deeply discounted. They're trying to appeal to the enthusiast without the enthusiast hardware, and don't appeal to the masses because they have no brand equity in the US.
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