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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:22 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:21 pm For best residual, top model ZERO options.
You don't really need any on the Rubi. Comes well equipped out of the box. Just pick the top and color and go.
Well, mine had a stick and tent windows. You'd at least want power windows and an auto I think. Especially with the 8-speed now.

But the stick and tent windows are why it sat and got the price so far down. I loved the half doors in CA, was epic.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:22 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:20 pm

Why the fuck do I remember that. :disgust:

32k for a rubi is nuts, you likely had the lowest priced rubi in the country... Right now the price of entry is well over 40k... likely 45k for one equipped as yours... Arguably more equipment doe...
Well, to be fair...I had a supplier pricing code from a friend and the dealer wanted to deal because the Jeep had been sitting for a while. IIRC, the MSRP was in the $35k range? I had to drive out to Vegas to get it.

:dillerman: claimed it was the cheapest Rubicon he had ever sold.

But :dill: s like that are out there.
If he joins the One Legged Veterans Association of California for $100 he gets $4k off or something doe? I'd do that.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:22 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:20 pm

Why the fuck do I remember that. :disgust:

32k for a rubi is nuts, you likely had the lowest priced rubi in the country... Right now the price of entry is well over 40k... likely 45k for one equipped as yours... Arguably more equipment doe...
Well, to be fair...I had a supplier pricing code from a friend and the dealer wanted to deal because the Jeep had been sitting for a while. IIRC, the MSRP was in the $35k range? I had to drive out to Vegas to get it.

:dillerman: claimed it was the cheapest Rubicon he had ever sold.

But :dill: s like that are out there.
There was a rubicon as such for 34k locally... it had around 39k msrp. and quite a bit sitting on the hood ~36k after tax... but it had heated seats and something else I can't put my finger on.
They raised the sticker around 5k and took out the LEDs :( so it'll be quite pricy now... and I won't do :manuel: + Tent. Auto + Portapotty are my MUST MUST haves. Ideally Stereo+lights too :gay:
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:25 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:22 pm

You don't really need any on the Rubi. Comes well equipped out of the box. Just pick the top and color and go.
Well, mine had a stick and tent windows. You'd at least want power windows and an auto I think. Especially with the 8-speed now.

But the stick and tent windows are why it sat and got the price so far down. I loved the half doors in CA, was epic.
Yeah. I wonder if the stick had anything to do with propped resale. Jeep people are strange.
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max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:12 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:08 pm

Plan on 3, sell it private party for what you paid for it initially, you're only out tax and tags. Jeep will keep increasing the price on these every year, that's how the JK's price has stayed propped up for so long. Detroit didn't lose much of anything on his other than tax and his didn't even come with real doors. Just some scaffolding and a tent.
So... if I assume I am out tax+depreciation of only 3k a year... I.E the JLU will still be worth 36k after 3 years... which seems like a LOT.... that's a far more reasonable $375 a month... hmm but do we really think that?
Your thoughts and analysis matter. We just want you to fkn buy it and tell us all about it. Then we get to time how long it takes for your to become bored of it. :)
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max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:18 pm
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Because 40 days after he buys it he'll want a performance car. Also this is money he could be hoarding to launch a startup and be somebody in the Pay Area, maybe even get himself a white girl that wasn't born in Vladivostok.
Barnaul, bro. :gaydance: Vladivostok is as far from her as new york from sf.
Still in Сибирь doe. Dat Asian land mass.
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Davestr wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:26 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:12 pm

So... if I assume I am out tax+depreciation of only 3k a year... I.E the JLU will still be worth 36k after 3 years... which seems like a LOT.... that's a far more reasonable $375 a month... hmm but do we really think that?
Your thoughts and analysis matter. We just want you to fkn buy it and tell us all about it. Then we get to time how long it takes for your to become bored of it. :)
Time to get bored with it... likely not very soon... ~2 years. However I am more concerned about things like losing my "job" and or relocating to the heard of BUM infested SF. In either case I would have made an incredibly shitty financial decision.
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max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:29 pm
Davestr wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:26 pm

Your thoughts and analysis matter. We just want you to fkn buy it and tell us all about it. Then we get to time how long it takes for your to become bored of it. :)
Time to get bored with it... likely not very soon... ~2 years. However I am more concerned about things like losing my "job" and or relocating to the heard of BUM infested SF. In either case I would have made an incredibly shitty financial decision.
Why the quotes?
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:29 pm JL is :tits:

Watching Demuro's video makes me want one moar.

I want Jeep to launch the configurator so I can continue to froth at the mouth.
it will be more like :scrooge: and :triggered: and :troywax: and less so froth. The pricing is nuts.

2-Door JL
Sport -- $26,995 ($3,000 more than 2017 JK)
Sport S -- $30,195 ($3,200 more than 2017 JK)
Rubicon -- $36,995 ($3,350 more than 2017 JK)

4-Door JLU
Sport -- $30,495 ($2,600 more than 2017 JK)
Sport S -- $33,695 ($2,600 more than 2017 JK)
Sahara -- $37,345 ($3,050 more than 2017 JK)
Rubicon -- $40,495 ($3,050 more than 2017 JK)

Rubicon 40,495
+ Destination $1195
+ LED $895
+ Auto $1995
+ Hard top $1695
+$795 Jew connect
(must have)
45,875
+895 stereo nice to have
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:32 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:29 pm

Time to get bored with it... likely not very soon... ~2 years. However I am more concerned about things like losing my "job" and or relocating to the heard of BUM infested SF. In either case I would have made an incredibly shitty financial decision.
Why the quotes?
I am worked really hard where I am currently... and paid really well. I don't know if that is a permanent situation. I am not like a football player that goes to a strip club on pay day and buys a Bentley only to go broke by 35.
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I might buy one anyway.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:26 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:25 pm
Well, mine had a stick and tent windows. You'd at least want power windows and an auto I think. Especially with the 8-speed now.

But the stick and tent windows are why it sat and got the price so far down. I loved the half doors in CA, was epic.
Yeah. I wonder if the stick had anything to do with propped resale. Jeep people are strange.
It's entirely possible. There's demand in the used market for :manuel: Jeeps, but nobody seems to buy them new. It's :impressive: that there will be a :manuel: on the JL at all.

I prefer auto for wheeling, personally.

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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:35 pm I might buy one anyway.
Honestly It would make way more sense than the current setup.
It is the only :aintcare: + Enthusiast vehicle out there... and you can personalize it to taste. Only issue is entry price.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:35 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:26 pm

Yeah. I wonder if the stick had anything to do with propped resale. Jeep people are strange.
It's entirely possible. There's demand in the used market for :manuel: Jeeps, but nobody seems to buy them new. It's :impressive: that there will be a :manuel: on the JL at all.

I prefer auto for wheeling, personally.

:triggered:
I have no desire to own a bubble tire ox cart barge with a row your own manual if there's a decent automatic available.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:35 pm I might buy one anyway.
You should.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:35 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:26 pm

Yeah. I wonder if the stick had anything to do with propped resale. Jeep people are strange.
It's entirely possible. There's demand in the used market for :manuel: Jeeps, but nobody seems to buy them new. It's :impressive: that there will be a :manuel: on the JL at all.

I prefer auto for wheeling, personally.

:triggered:
The take rates are pretty high, as high as 30% IIRC
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:36 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:35 pm
It's entirely possible. There's demand in the used market for :manuel: Jeeps, but nobody seems to buy them new. It's :impressive: that there will be a :manuel: on the JL at all.

I prefer auto for wheeling, personally.

:triggered:
I have no desire to own a bubble tire ox cart barge with a row your own manual if there's a decent automatic available.
:dat:
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max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:37 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:35 pm
It's entirely possible. There's demand in the used market for :manuel: Jeeps, but nobody seems to buy them new. It's :impressive: that there will be a :manuel: on the JL at all.

I prefer auto for wheeling, personally.

:triggered:
The take rates are pretty high, as high as 30% IIRC
I doubt it's that high.
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If it topped 20%, I'd be shocked.
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max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:36 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:35 pm I might buy one anyway.
Honestly It would make way more sense than the current setup.
It is the only :aintcare: + Enthusiast vehicle out there... and you can personalize it to taste. Only issue is entry price.
I'd likely cross shop a 4Runner to be responsible. They're both reasonable purchases for enthusiasts with an :aintcare: attitude.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:37 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:37 pm

The take rates are pretty high, as high as 30% IIRC
I doubt it's that high.
I can't remember where I read it... but overall it is 10-20 and up to 30 on the rubicunt
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:38 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:36 pm

Honestly It would make way more sense than the current setup.
It is the only :aintcare: + Enthusiast vehicle out there... and you can personalize it to taste. Only issue is entry price.
I'd likely cross shop a 4Runner to be responsible. They're both reasonable purchases for enthusiasts with an :aintcare: attitude.
I'd JL before 4Runner, personally.
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max225 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:33 pm

it will be more like :scrooge: and :triggered: and :troywax: and less so froth. The pricing is nuts.

2-Door JL
Sport -- $26,995 ($3,000 more than 2017 JK)
Sport S -- $30,195 ($3,200 more than 2017 JK)
Rubicon -- $36,995 ($3,350 more than 2017 JK)

4-Door JLU
Sport -- $30,495 ($2,600 more than 2017 JK)
Sport S -- $33,695 ($2,600 more than 2017 JK)
Sahara -- $37,345 ($3,050 more than 2017 JK)
Rubicon -- $40,495 ($3,050 more than 2017 JK)

Rubicon 40,495
+ Destination $1195
+ LED $895
+ Auto $1995
+ Hard top $1695
+$795 Jew connect
(must have)
45,875
+895 stereo nice to have
The tech, refinement, and weight loss due to real investment is real, doe.

Not bad things.

Also, destination is $1195? :bruh:

That's nuts.
There is no weight loss. Whatever was removed was added back through "features" or whatever
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:36 pm
I have no desire to own a bubble tire ox cart barge with a row your own manual if there's a decent automatic available.
:dat:

The 5-speed in the JK is not good. Slow to react, slow to shift... meh.

But, 8-speed has potential. Really liked the 8-speed in the Colorado.
Different trans, but similar performance. I love the 8-speed in my truck.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:36 pm
I have no desire to own a bubble tire ox cart barge with a row your own manual if there's a decent automatic available.
:dat:

The 5-speed in the JK is not good. Slow to react, slow to shift... meh.

But, 8-speed has potential. Really liked the 8-speed in the Colorado.
Different trans, but similar performance. I love the 8-speed in my truck.
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