Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

[ChrisoftheNorth]

There's actually a rail car shortage going on right now. It's impacting the entire industry. Vehicles are piling up on factory lots all over the country.

Strikes or ? You'd think at $1495 per car you'd get a private trailer.

No, the actual train cars. There aren't enough of them...too many wore out and not enough new ones were built before. The industry has been at the highest production it's been at for a few years now. The rail industry didn't keep up, oddly.

[max225]

Strikes or ? You'd think at $1495 per car you'd get a private trailer.

No, the actual train cars. There aren't enough of them...too many wore out and not enough new ones were built before. The industry has been at the highest production it's been at for a few years now. The rail industry didn't keep up, oddly.

http://tucson.com/business/local/idle-l ... 54436.html

about this... I guess it is just rail cars?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

No, the actual train cars. There aren't enough of them...too many wore out and not enough new ones were built before. The industry has been at the highest production it's been at for a few years now. The rail industry didn't keep up, oddly.

http://tucson.com/business/local/idle-l ... 54436.html

about this... I guess it is just rail cars?

Correct. Just auto transport cars.

[wap]

No, the actual train cars. There aren't enough of them...too many wore out and not enough new ones were built before. The industry has been at the highest production it's been at for a few years now. The rail industry didn't keep up, oddly.

http://tucson.com/business/local/idle-l ... 54436.html

about this... I guess it is just rail cars?

That's a 2 year old story

Byline says May 11, 2016.

[max225]

http://tucson.com/business/local/idle-l ... 54436.html

about this... I guess it is just rail cars?

That's a 2 year old story

Byline says May 11, 2016.

The YouTube is but more current ... from last year

[max225]

Jeep sold 27k wranglers last month... a 70% increase...

They also moved 55k units YTD, a 35% increase...

's about the price increase... it is also now Jeeps BEST SELLING MODEL. A first...

*JK and JL are still sold side by side

[dubshow]

Jeep sold 27k wranglers last month... a 70% increase...

They also moved 55k units YTD, a 35% increase...

's about the price increase... it is also now Jeeps BEST SELLING MODEL. A first...

*JK and JL are still sold side by side

Meanwhile the subprime loan market vanished nearly overnight.

Also, did you buy a jeep yet?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

You mean increased production = increased sales?

[Johnny_P]

Wrangler is second best selling vehicle in the entire FCA portfolio. THAT is AF.

Still moving Rams despite the new model reveal.

The 4C will be a collectible due to such low volume. Mark my words.

[max225]

I don't get the subprime comment ? No for me yet... maybe in 16 months

[dubshow]

Also, what you are saying is im -69% likely to pick up a new 4C.

[max225]

You mean increased production = increased sales?

Well it is amazing how MUCH MORE they were able to move... I don't think they were that production capped... WHO TF are all these jeep buyers... The ASP is around 37-40k on the old one and 45k on the new one...

[dubshow]

You mean increased production = increased sales?

Well it is amazing how MUCH MORE they were able to move... I don't think they were that production capped... WHO TF are all these jeep buyers... The ASP is around 37-40k on the old one and 45k on the new one...

i should trade my heep in before it depreciates from levels.

[Desertbreh]

he paid no where near that. Also it would make a great car for the daughter at $270 a month pre tax.

Breh would rather put his daughter in a rolling status symbol V8 Benzo and take the full experience dealing with a fully depreciated German exotic's "maintenance" requirements than be seen in an orange trendy jelly bean.

I missed this. Both options are stupid I just need to get a Mazda 3 in a shade of despair.

[Desertbreh]

Breh would rather put his daughter in a rolling status symbol V8 Benzo and take the full experience dealing with a fully depreciated German exotic's "maintenance" requirements than be seen in an orange trendy jelly bean.

He already did that with the CLS550... with not so great results...

That car was not my doing. I came along 1/2 way through that.

[Desertbreh]

He's and not so he'll be just fine.

$1000 to make a rear air vent work

Let's not forget "Airmatic" the ultimate suspension.

[max225]

$1000 to make a rear air vent work

Let's not forget "Airmatic" the ultimate suspension.

The air suspension is actually ok. And not expensive or difficult to service if you do your research. However the hydraulic ABC system

[Johnny_P]

Breh would rather put his daughter in a rolling status symbol V8 Benzo and take the full experience dealing with a fully depreciated German exotic's "maintenance" requirements than be seen in an orange trendy jelly bean.

I missed this. Both options are stupid I just need to get a Mazda 3 in a shade of despair.

They're really not terrible vehicles to be honest. My mom got one and aside from being loud inside and a boring color it drives pretty well. Cheap used too.

[Desertbreh]

Let's not forget "Airmatic" the ultimate suspension.

The air suspension is actually ok. And not expensive or difficult to service if you do your research. However the hydraulic ABC system

The factory Bilstein air shocks were guaranteed to fail and cost $1000 per corner at MB. I went with some sort of Brand X for the rears and that wasn't all that cheap. How is any of that ok? Air sucks for suspension, long term reliability wise. See Range Rover. If I was keeping that thing for myself for any length of time would have replaced the whole thing with a Bilstein coilover setup.

[max225]

The air suspension is actually ok. And not expensive or difficult to service if you do your research. However the hydraulic ABC system

The factory Bilstein air shocks were guaranteed to fail and cost $1000 per corner at MB. I went with some sort of Brand X for the rears and that wasn't all that cheap. How is any of that ok? Air sucks for suspension, long term reliability wise. See Range Rover. If I was keeping that thing for myself for any length of time would have replaced the whole thing with a Bilstein coilover setup.

The system IIRC lasts around 8-10 years which is about as long as coilover take to wear out as well... it is more pricy but the system has neat futures. Gotta pay to play breh,

[Desertbreh]

The factory Bilstein air shocks were guaranteed to fail and cost $1000 per corner at MB. I went with some sort of Brand X for the rears and that wasn't all that cheap. How is any of that ok? Air sucks for suspension, long term reliability wise. See Range Rover. If I was keeping that thing for myself for any length of time would have replaced the whole thing with a Bilstein coilover setup.

The system IIRC lasts around 8-10 years which is about as long as coilover take to wear out as well... it is more pricy but the system has neat futures. Gotta pay to play breh,

I set it on firm and didn't touch it. Still wasn't firm enough. And the whole raise and lower to get in and out of the car? That's a geriatric feature and I plan on killing myself the day I find this attractive. Premium feature I found attractive? Stonking N/A V8 with many torks. The rest of it was mostly stupid.

I ordered the 440i with non-adjustable suspension on purpose. It rides pretty firm but the shocks won't cost a zillion dollars to replace. Those are things for you lease guys.

[Desertbreh]

The factory Bilstein air shocks were guaranteed to fail and cost $1000 per corner at MB. I went with some sort of Brand X for the rears and that wasn't all that cheap. How is any of that ok? Air sucks for suspension, long term reliability wise. See Range Rover. If I was keeping that thing for myself for any length of time would have replaced the whole thing with a Bilstein coilover setup.

The system IIRC lasts around 8-10 years which is about as long as coilover take to wear out as well... it is more pricy but the system has neat futures. Gotta pay to play breh,

First shock shit the bed year 4, second front at year 5, first rear at year 7

[max225]

The system IIRC lasts around 8-10 years which is about as long as coilover take to wear out as well... it is more pricy but the system has neat futures. Gotta pay to play breh,

First shock shit the bed year 4, second front at year 5, first rear at year 7

Must be dat desert climate dry rotting the rubber. year 4 is shitty.

[max225]

The system IIRC lasts around 8-10 years which is about as long as coilover take to wear out as well... it is more pricy but the system has neat futures. Gotta pay to play breh,

I set it on firm and didn't touch it. Still wasn't firm enough. And the whole raise and lower to get in and out of the car? That's a geriatric feature and I plan on killing myself the day I find this attractive. Premium feature I found attractive? Stonking N/A V8 with many torks. The rest of it was mostly stupid.

I ordered the 440i with non-adjustable suspension on purpose. It rides pretty firm but the shocks won't cost a zillion dollars to replace. Those are things for you lease guys.

The M car frightens me out of warranty.

[Desertbreh]

First shock shit the bed year 4, second front at year 5, first rear at year 7

Must be dat desert climate dry rotting the rubber. year 4 is shitty.

Definitely a possibility.