[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:38 pmI hate to say I think you could make a very good living in this country being a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole.Detroit wrote:In the days of social media and everything being public...it seems as though a discriminatory business could be put under much faster.
But I know that theory and reality are two different things in this case.
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troyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:37 pmHating fags (or most any minority) is likely to gain you more business than you lose in much of the country/world... Religion is the greatest!
I tend to forget about it because I find it so difficult to believe. We live in a bubble where anyone can do anything ZFG.
But I know you're right.
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[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:38 pmI hate to say I think you could make a very good living in this country being a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole.Detroit wrote:In the days of social media and everything being public...it seems as though a discriminatory business could be put under much faster.
But I know that theory and reality are two different things in this case.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Nope. That interferes with interstate commerce. Does not baking two gay dudes a cake rise to that? Probably not.[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:54 amSo I can refuse to serve a black person?razr390 wrote:Re: gay cakes
What gay person/couple would eat a cake they forced some private business to make in spite of the business/owner/etc not wanting to? Shit, I have skepticism about taking someone's parking space and coming back to my car with slashed tires, let alone trusting that person to not add his DNA to a cake.
At the end of the day I am of the belief that any private business has the right to refuse service to any person for any reason. In capitalism, we speak with our wallets and taking my business elsewhere from there on out would do more damage to that business than any "lawsuit" ever would (unless it brings attention in huge numbers and causes a bad reputation to spread like wild fire.)
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razr390 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:26 amTouché, but I believe that’s the simplest and most rational way. If a business refuses to serve a black individual then they will suffer loss of business from a large percentage of society; likewise with LGBT, etc.
Just because it seems wrong doesn’t mean it should be illegal, because there are alternatives to satisfy the initial person’s needs (i.e. Bakey A refuses to serve a black/minority/LGBT individual, so bakeries B-Z offer to help them.)
That argument would only make sense in a vacuum society where only versions A of everything exist, and not B-Z (if that makes sense). A realist like you should understand that although the business does have the right to refuse service, it doesn’t mean that they necessarily should, as in this competitive market that could mean the make or break between surviving or going bankrupt.
Read up on the South during the 50's and 60's and the equal rights struggles that had to happen just to get lunch counters to serve black people, etc. Institutionalized racism is not easily swept away. We should not do anything that gives it any chance of creeping back because make no mistake, even today there are PLENTY of assholes who would be perfectly happy to see "colored only" water fountains, bathroom, theater entrances, restaurants, neighborhoods, schools, etc. make a comeback.
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Roy Moore Signature Model Wedding Cake.[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:38 pmI hate to say I think you could make a very good living in this country being a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole.Detroit wrote:In the days of social media and everything being public...it seems as though a discriminatory business could be put under much faster.
But I know that theory and reality are two different things in this case.
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troyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:35 amSpoken like someone who is not a minority.Detroit wrote:Any business should have the right to refuse service to anyone they want.
And they also have the right to go out of business shortly after they do. It's just stupid business practice. NOT taking people's money because you don't like them for superficial reasons is ridiculous.
Free markets don't solve these problems, they perpetuate them.
There are very good reasons why this shit is illegal.
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[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:24 amOur history will show us that this isn't what happens through. Progress needs to be forced against the market in some situations. Jim Crow wasn't that long ago. Stonewall was even more recent.Detroit wrote:Any business should have the right to refuse service to anyone they want.
And they also have the right to go out of business shortly after they do. It's just stupid business practice. NOT taking people's money because you don't like them for superficial reasons is ridiculous.
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White cake with vanilla frosting, made with lard by barefoot women the way God intended.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:41 pmRoy Moore Signature Model Wedding Cake.[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:38 pm I hate to say I think you could make a very good living in this country being a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole.
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but can't entirely disagree.troyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:37 pmHating fags (or most any minority) is likely to gain you more business than you lose in much of the country/world... Religion is the greatest!
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Apex wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:38 pm[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:38 pm I hate to say I think you could make a very good living in this country being a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole.
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Whew. Faith in you is restored.Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:38 pmtroyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:37 pm
Hating fags (or most any minority) is likely to gain you more business than you lose in much of the country/world... Religion is the greatest!
I tend to forget about it because I find it so difficult to believe. We live in a bubble where anyone can do anything ZFG.
But I know you're right.
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Today’s offering, decidedly less political:
Onion:
neighbors who are so nosy they even ask where your car is at when you’re having it worked on.
Onion:
neighbors who are so nosy they even ask where your car is at when you’re having it worked on.
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Haven’t even scratched the surface yet.[user not found] wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:25 amYour town is awesome4zilch wrote:Today’s offering, decidedly less political:
Onion:
neighbors who are so nosy they even ask where your car is at when you’re having it worked on.
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
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i searched as greek island, but i re searched it again just to know the name. it could possibly be santorini.
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My first guess was Santorini, too, but Santorini does not have a castle on top of a hill like in this pic.MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:48 ami searched as greek island, but i re searched it again just to know the name. it could possibly be santorini.
yes. and they can choose to rally against your business.[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:54 amSo I can refuse to serve a black person?razr390 wrote:Re: gay cakes
What gay person/couple would eat a cake they forced some private business to make in spite of the business/owner/etc not wanting to? Shit, I have skepticism about taking someone's parking space and coming back to my car with slashed tires, let alone trusting that person to not add his DNA to a cake.
At the end of the day I am of the belief that any private business has the right to refuse service to any person for any reason. In capitalism, we speak with our wallets and taking my business elsewhere from there on out would do more damage to that business than any "lawsuit" ever would (unless it brings attention in huge numbers and causes a bad reputation to spread like wild fire.)
i recently added the castle. Feel free to come visit.wap wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:39 amMy first guess was Santorini, too, but Santorini does not have a castle on top of a hill like in this pic.MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:48 am
i searched as greek island, but i re searched it again just to know the name. it could possibly be santorini.
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No such thing. Free market is best market.[user not found] wrote:And it will have zero impact on me. There are occasions social good out weighs market forces.dubshow wrote: yes. and they can choose to rally against your business.
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If you know the word Malaka, then I'll believe it.
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those who think Columbus is on the east coast when they consistently say, “Happy Holidays,” instead of what most of us have said since we were children, which is, “Merry Christmas.”
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