Home heating

Building Bag End? Did your front fall off? More leaks than a Chinese steamboat? Show us your pinterest projects!
User avatar
Calvinball
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 11184
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:49 pm
Drives: Pumpkin, Hellcat edition

wap wrote:
Calvinball wrote:
Thanks Fap!

So how the hell does the dual zone work??
You're welcome!
The only thing I can think of is that maybe there is a split in the hot water supply line somewhere and there is an electronic valve that is controlled by the thermostats that opens and closes to let hot water up to the second zone, but I don't really know for sure.
It will remain a mystery until something breaks.
:therapist:
User avatar
dtraill27
Chief Patty Officer
Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 1155
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:45 pm
Drives: 17 Mazda 6
Location: Allentown

New house is about 1300 Sq ft plus a 400 Sq ft finished walk out basement. Has electric baseboard heat which are the pinnacle of inefficient. Main level has a coal stove I've been using. Heats whole main level to the upper 70s so no need for baseboard heat except in basement. Relighting fire and cleaning out ash suck big time but I got two tons of coal delivered for 500 and that will last all winter and half of next. Notbad.jpg
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45161
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

dtraill27 wrote:New house is about 1300 Sq ft plus a 400 Sq ft finished walk out basement. Has electric baseboard heat which are the pinnacle of inefficient. Main level has a coal stove I've been using. Heats whole main level to the upper 70s so no need for baseboard heat except in basement. Relighting fire and cleaning out ash suck big time but I got two tons of coal delivered for 500 and that will last all winter and half of next. Notbad.jpg
Literally rolling coal in the casa!
:mindblown:
That's how my mother heated her house when she was a little girl back in the 1930's. Her mother would wake up super early, bring up a load of coal in the coal scuttle, then light the stoves to get the house warm before everyone else in the house woke up. Didn't think domestic coal heat was even still a thing, along with home coal delivery. :mindblown:
I'd say you have a heating system that's even more old fashioned than DPlacs Thomas the Tank Engine steam heat. :impressive:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
dtraill27
Chief Patty Officer
Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 1155
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:45 pm
Drives: 17 Mazda 6
Location: Allentown

Yeah I never thought I'd be burning coal but it's legit. Usually load it in the morning before work and again when I get home. Get 8 - 12 hours burn time with no maintenance. Dat blessed lands anthracite
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45161
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

dtraill27 wrote:Yeah I never thought I'd be burning coal but it's legit. Usually load it in the morning before work and again when I get home. Get 8 - 12 hours burn time with no maintenance. Dat blessed lands anthracite
:amazing:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
dtraill27
Chief Patty Officer
Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 1155
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:45 pm
Drives: 17 Mazda 6
Location: Allentown

There's a whole PA anthracite forum out there I had to read cause I had no idea how to work the stove or burn coal
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45161
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

dtraill27 wrote:There's a whole PA anthracite forum out there I had to read cause I had no idea how to work the stove or burn coal
It must be an almost-lost skill, like maintaining oil lamps.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
dtraill27
Chief Patty Officer
Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 1155
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:45 pm
Drives: 17 Mazda 6
Location: Allentown

I'll be able to tell my grandkids about how I got the black lung

Image
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45161
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

dtraill27 wrote:I'll be able to tell my grandkids about how I got the black lung

Image
:lolol:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42432
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

:wat: are all those things
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42432
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

dtraill27 wrote:I'll be able to tell my grandkids about how I got the black lung

Image
My grandpa was a mining engineer in mother russia, getting the good black stuff in Сибирь... it is a miracle he is alive ... and in retrospect me... He had some epic stories.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

maxtdi wrote:
dtraill27 wrote:I'll be able to tell my grandkids about how I got the black lung

Image
My grandpa was a mining engineer in mother russia, getting the good black stuff in Сибирь... it is a miracle he is alive ... and in retrospect me... He had some epic stories.
My grandfather was a coal miner for a long time. He lived to be 101 years old. Had cancer twice doe.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

dtraill27 wrote:Yeah I never thought I'd be burning coal but it's legit. Usually load it in the morning before work and again when I get home. Get 8 - 12 hours burn time with no maintenance. Dat blessed lands anthracite
My cousin has coal burning stoves in his house. They get it for free in the river. Lots of coal in the river bed from old mining operations, sunken barges and rafts, etc.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

Big Brain Bradley wrote:
Calvinball wrote:Image

So what the hell am I looking at?

Sent from the beer depository
a huge fucking mess if that T&P valve ever opens. run that bitch outside ASAP
Would destroy the floor for sure. I would run it to the basement drain if possible.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

wap wrote:
Calvinball wrote:
Thanks Fap!

So how the hell does the dual zone work??
You're welcome!
The only thing I can think of is that maybe there is a split in the hot water supply line somewhere and there is an electronic valve that is controlled by the thermostats that opens and closes to let hot water up to the second zone, but I don't really know for sure.
WAP is right on the equipment identification. Not sure on dual zone. Would need to analyze the system.

Image
User avatar
Calvinball
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 11184
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:49 pm
Drives: Pumpkin, Hellcat edition

Johnny_P wrote:
wap wrote: You're welcome!
The only thing I can think of is that maybe there is a split in the hot water supply line somewhere and there is an electronic valve that is controlled by the thermostats that opens and closes to let hot water up to the second zone, but I don't really know for sure.
WAP is right on the equipment identification. Not sure on dual zone. Would need to analyze the system.

Image
So the pipe off of what you labeled as the pressure safety valve should be re-routed.

How bout the "gas dirt trap." Anything I need to do with that?

Sent from the beer depository
:therapist:
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

Calvinball wrote:
Johnny_P wrote: WAP is right on the equipment identification. Not sure on dual zone. Would need to analyze the system.

Image
So the pipe off of what you labeled as the pressure safety valve should be re-routed.

How bout the "gas dirt trap." Anything I need to do with that?

Sent from the beer depository
Route it to your basement drain if you want. Might want to check regulations if you're allowed to do this or not. But if the boiler over pressures for whatever reason it'll dump scalding hot water all over the place. Kind of like a water heater rupture.

The dirt trap shouldn't ever need to be cleaned out. It's there just in case, to catch iron bits, dirt, whatever else in the pipe before the gas enters your regulator and burners. The dirt will just fall into that leg of pipe, the gas will continue to the regulator. Just don't tie into the gas pipe from that spot.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

Once a year or so you're supposed to flush the boiler to clear out built-up iron deposits and stuff in the boiler tubes. To do that, turn off the gas and electric, connect a hose to the drain valve and route it to your basement drain, note the current system pressure on the pressure indicator. Close the cold water make up valve, open the drain valve. Watch the stuff coming out, it will be dirty. When it runs clean close the drain valve. Top off the system, open the make up valve and watch the pressure indicator. When you're at the right pressure you close that make up valve. Get radiator keys and vent the radiators. Open the valve on the top of the radiator and let the air out, when water starts to dribble out close the valve. Do that to each radiator in the house starting from bottom to top. Check system pressure between radiator venting and adjust with the make up valve. When you're done you can re energize and light the boiler.
User avatar
Calvinball
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 11184
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:49 pm
Drives: Pumpkin, Hellcat edition

Thanks for all the advice guise.

Sent from the beer depository
:therapist:
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

[user not found] wrote:
Johnny_P wrote: WAP is right on the equipment identification. Not sure on dual zone. Would need to analyze the system.

Image
Dat gas dirt trap.

I just learned so much. :impressive:
Also. Adobe has awesome free online picture editing software. It's :impressive: af.
User avatar
troyguitar
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 20088
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:15 pm
Drives: Trek Domane
Location: Swamp

[user not found] wrote:In February, gas company is surveying our neighborhood to lay lines. :fuckyeah:
:alpo: strikes again?
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

[user not found] wrote:In February, gas company is surveying our neighborhood to lay lines. :fuckyeah:
Get ready for royally fucked up roads.
User avatar
Calvinball
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 11184
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:49 pm
Drives: Pumpkin, Hellcat edition

[user not found] wrote:
Johnny_P wrote: Get ready for royally fucked up roads.
Fine by me. 300 yards to the street.
Your driveway is 3 football fields?

Sent from the beer depository
:therapist:
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

[user not found] wrote:
Calvinball wrote: Your driveway is 3 football fields?

Sent from the beer depository
You know what I met but fail anyway
:[user not found]: :drunk:
User avatar
Calvinball
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 11184
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:49 pm
Drives: Pumpkin, Hellcat edition

[user not found] wrote:
Calvinball wrote: Your driveway is 3 football fields?

Sent from the beer depository
You know what I met but fail anyway
:zing:

Sent from the beer depository
:therapist:
Post Reply