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Acid666 wrote:You'll be able to unscrew the shifter from the bottom box, but I think to get to the internals you'll have to grind off what looks like rivets on the stock setup.
I tore apart my aftermarket shifter to find a rattle and I know what it is but I can't do much to alleviate it.
For the stock setup, you might end up ruining the rubber around the top just getting to the internals. I don't know this for sure, just remembering what I remember from pictures.

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Those 4X bolts are removable, but the brown inside ones (4X) look to either be rivets or PEM studs or something. I don't really know how to remove them and not destroy the whole thing. One thing you can look at is those big Torx screws that hold the shifter box to the torque tube. From what I understand those bushings wear out and need to be replaced. My aftermarket shifter has solid mounts and I think this is where a lot of the solid feel comes from. They sell replacement bushings online for those.
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Thanks a lot dude! The shifter box to the torque tube bushings are my end game so I won't do anything with the rivets further up. I'm kind of wondering if something is loose too. Wifey gave me :poop: for spending my day on car maintenance items instead of home shit that I promised to complete so this goes on the back burner for the next couple of nights. Hopefully I find something to fix or replace while in there.

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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c5 ... boxes.html

I had this dude rebuild my lower shifter box and the end result is fantastic. Night and day difference in shift feel.

I'd pull the shifter off (the 4 bolts) and check for looseness in it. I doubt there is any, it's probably all in the box. Most people don't realize how much slop there is in the box.
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Detroit wrote:https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c5 ... boxes.html

I had this dude rebuild my lower shifter box and the end result is fantastic. Night and day difference in shift feel.

I'd pull the shifter off (the 4 bolts) and check for looseness in it. I doubt there is any, it's probably all in the box. Most people don't realize how much slop there is in the box.
Oh this is interesting :plaid: ! I think i will send Tom my core for a rebuild. There are two options poly or delrin, are you happy with the delrin version you specified?

I might even be able to get a hold of the type of bearings he needs (mentioned that he is short in his latest posting. I have a contract with a robotics co that also manufactures high end bearings and cutting tools. Send a few bearings with my core for a discount. :scrooge:
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 7:08 am
Detroit wrote:https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c5 ... boxes.html

I had this dude rebuild my lower shifter box and the end result is fantastic. Night and day difference in shift feel.

I'd pull the shifter off (the 4 bolts) and check for looseness in it. I doubt there is any, it's probably all in the box. Most people don't realize how much slop there is in the box.
Oh this is interesting :plaid: ! I think i will send Tom my core for a rebuild. There are two options poly or delrin, are you happy with the delrin version you specified?

I might even be able to get a hold of the type of bearings he needs (mentioned that he is short in his latest posting. I have a contract with a robotics co that also manufactures high end bearings and cutting tools. Send a few bearings with my core for a discount. :scrooge:
The dude is super responsive and has a quick turn-around, though I do think he's a bit overwhelmed by demand. Nobody offers a rebuilt box like this, and especially for the price.

I'm pleased with the delrin. You can feel more through the shifter (vibes), but it just feels more mechanical to me. I drove old cars with shifters bolted straight to the trans for years, this is no different. My shifter box wasn't even that bad when I pulled it out, and debated not sending it to him. But I'm so glad I did. It eliminated the rubberyness in the shift feeling, and overall feels way more direct and easy to find gears. Mine used to hang up going into first sometimes, it doesn't do that at all anymore. I'm still using my 100% stock upper shifter too, that thing was tight and I saw no reason to replace. I guess shorter throws might be nice? But overall the box improvement was the best yet.
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 7:08 am Oh this is interesting :plaid: ! I think i will send Tom my core for a rebuild. There are two options poly or delrin, are you happy with the delrin version you specified?

I might even be able to get a hold of the type of bearings he needs (mentioned that he is short in his latest posting. I have a contract with a robotics co that also manufactures high end bearings and cutting tools. Send a few bearings with my core for a discount. :scrooge:
The dude is super responsive and has a quick turn-around, though I do think he's a bit overwhelmed by demand. Nobody offers a rebuilt box like this, and especially for the price.

I'm pleased with the delrin. You can feel more through the shifter (vibes), but it just feels more mechanical to me. I drove old cars with shifters bolted straight to the trans for years, this is no different. My shifter box wasn't even that bad when I pulled it out, and debated not sending it to him. But I'm so glad I did. It eliminated the rubberyness in the shift feeling, and overall feels way more direct and easy to find gears. Mine used to hang up going into first sometimes, it doesn't do that at all anymore. I'm still using my 100% stock upper shifter too, that thing was tight and I saw no reason to replace. I guess shorter throws might be nice? But overall the box improvement was the best yet.
Oh man, i want this rebuid! Shifting into first gear is a gong show. I'll probably opt for the delrin spec as well. I don't mind the vibrations (that's what she said).
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It's a 5/7 update. But, it's also really important to pay close attention to the alignment when you put it back together. I spent quite a bit of time tweaking it to make sure it's just right.
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Detroit wrote:It's a 5/7 update. But, it's also really important to pay close attention to the alignment when you put it back together. I spent quite a bit of time tweaking it to make sure it's just right.
So find first gear and tighten top left, then find sixth gear and tighten up top right kind of idea?
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 9:15 am
Detroit wrote:It's a 5/7 update. But, it's also really important to pay close attention to the alignment when you put it back together. I spent quite a bit of time tweaking it to make sure it's just right.
So find first gear and tighten top left, then find sixth gear and tighten up top right kind of idea?
Kind of. When you take the box out, you'll see there's an indent in the rod that's bolted to the shift linkage. You need that lined up perfectly for side-to-side, and might take some trial and error. Then the torque tube mount bolts need to be adjusted for fore-aft. It's a good idea to take close pictures before you disassemble to get you in the ballpark during installation.
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 9:15 am So find first gear and tighten top left, then find sixth gear and tighten up top right kind of idea?
Kind of. When you take the box out, you'll see there's an indent in the rod that's bolted to the shift linkage. You need that lined up perfectly for side-to-side, and might take some trial and error. Then the torque tube mount bolts need to be adjusted for fore-aft. It's a good idea to take close pictures before you disassemble to get you in the ballpark during installation.
Got it, i will paint mark all things before tearing it apart! Thanks DP!
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 10:03 am
Detroit wrote: Kind of. When you take the box out, you'll see there's an indent in the rod that's bolted to the shift linkage. You need that lined up perfectly for side-to-side, and might take some trial and error. Then the torque tube mount bolts need to be adjusted for fore-aft. It's a good idea to take close pictures before you disassemble to get you in the ballpark during installation.
Got it, i will paint mark all things before tearing it apart! Thanks DP!
He sand blasts the box when he gets it to make it fresh. Back up paint with photo evidence.
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 10:03 am Got it, i will paint mark all things before tearing it apart! Thanks DP!
He sand blasts the box when he gets it to make it fresh. Back up paint with photo evidence.
In that case i should paint around the unit onto the mounting surface so I can see where it sat. Pictures will help a lot.
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 10:26 am
Detroit wrote: He sand blasts the box when he gets it to make it fresh. Back up paint with photo evidence.
In that case i should paint around the unit onto the mounting surface so I can see where it sat. Pictures will help a lot.
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Shudder is gone! :fuckyeah:

Things that I touched were fluids (engine/diff/clutch), took off the wheels and inspected the brakes (no findings), bottomed out the rear lowering bolts.

I think my left rear wheel centerbore hole might be too tight tolerance and its possible that the wheel was off position and it caused a resonance through the drive train and into the dash at certain rpms. The lugs on that wheel felt a little looser then the others, still tight but not as tight, and getting the wheel off was a serious chore. :derp:

Still not totally believing that its gone for good. Hopefully doe.
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 2:54 pm Shudder is gone! :fuckyeah:

Things that I touched were fluids (engine/diff/clutch), took off the wheels and inspected the brakes (no findings), bottomed out the rear lowering bolts.

I think my left rear wheel centerbore hole might be too tight tolerance and its possible that the wheel was off position and it caused a resonance through the drive train and into the dash at certain rpms. The lugs on that wheel felt a little looser then the others, still tight but not as tight, and getting the wheel off was a serious chore. :derp:

Still not totally believing that its gone for good. Hopefully doe.
:fuckyeah:

Hope that's all it was, breh!
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Tarspin wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 2:54 pm Shudder is gone! :fuckyeah:

Things that I touched were fluids (engine/diff/clutch), took off the wheels and inspected the brakes (no findings), bottomed out the rear lowering bolts.

I think my left rear wheel centerbore hole might be too tight tolerance and its possible that the wheel was off position and it caused a resonance through the drive train and into the dash at certain rpms. The lugs on that wheel felt a little looser then the others, still tight but not as tight, and getting the wheel off was a serious chore. :derp:

Still not totally believing that its gone for good. Hopefully doe.
:fuckyeah:

Hope that's all it was, breh!
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Posting the vert up for sale. :popcorn:

One serious buyer contacted me an hour after i put it up but he tried getting it for 4k below the lowest posted on the market. Even at that price ($15.2k USD) I would have lost 1k/yr for the three years I owned it. Hopefully something closer to asking comes up this week.

I better give it a proper wash and wax at least.
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Tarspin wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:03 am Posting the vert up for sale. :popcorn:

One serious buyer contacted me an hour after i put it up but he tried getting it for 4k below the lowest posted on the market. Even at that price ($15.2k USD) I would have lost 1k/yr for the three years I owned it. Hopefully something closer to asking comes up this week.

I better give it a proper wash and wax at least.
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Is this funding second :haus: purchase?
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Apex wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:28 am
Tarspin wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:03 am Posting the vert up for sale. :popcorn:

One serious buyer contacted me an hour after i put it up but he tried getting it for 4k below the lowest posted on the market. Even at that price ($15.2k USD) I would have lost 1k/yr for the three years I owned it. Hopefully something closer to asking comes up this week.

I better give it a proper wash and wax at least.
:popcorn:

Is this funding second :haus: purchase?

:yesth: .... stretched really thin for the next year. Maybe by the time I'm ready to buy another one i will be able to pick up a GS
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Sold.
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I will kind of miss it :(
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Tarspin wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:06 pmSold.
Dang you sold it in one day? Also close to no depreciation? Seems like a win to me
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max225 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:23 pm
Tarspin wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:06 pmSold.
Dang you sold it in one day? Also close to no depreciation? Seems like a win to me
Bought it for 18.5kUSD
Wheels and tars were 3.5k
Diff replacement was 2k
Tax/misc was 2.5k

so all in cost was 26.5k

Sold it for 19kUSD

So all in costs minus fuel and insurance were 2.5k/yr including "mods".

There was another guy on the line that was willing to pay full asking price, so another 1k roughly.

It will help me reach the 20% down on the cottage so that saves me $10k in CMHC mortgage insurance. It's a win.
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Tarspin wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:36 pm
max225 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:23 pm

Dang you sold it in one day? Also close to no depreciation? Seems like a win to me
Bought it for 18.5kUSD
Wheels and tars were 3.5k
Diff replacement was 2k
Tax/misc was 2.5k

so all in cost was 26.5k

Sold it for 19kUSD

So all in costs minus fuel and insurance were 2.5k/yr including "mods".

There was another guy on the line that was willing to pay full asking price, so another 1k roughly.

It will help me reach the 20% down on the cottage so that saves me $10k in CMHC mortgage insurance. It's a win.
Most of us aren’t lucky enough to get more than original paid price unless we buy wranglers :impressive: work sir
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max225 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:41 pm
Tarspin wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:36 pm

Bought it for 18.5kUSD
Wheels and tars were 3.5k
Diff replacement was 2k
Tax/misc was 2.5k

so all in cost was 26.5k

Sold it for 19kUSD

So all in costs minus fuel and insurance were 2.5k/yr including "mods".

There was another guy on the line that was willing to pay full asking price, so another 1k roughly.

It will help me reach the 20% down on the cottage so that saves me $10k in CMHC mortgage insurance. It's a win.
Most of us aren’t lucky enough to get more than original paid price unless we buy wranglers :impressive: work sir
Thanks dude, a sign of the times and i think that I got in and getting out at the perfect time.

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Tarspin wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:06 pmSold.
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